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At the risk of being thrown out of the club bodily I am toying with the idea of buying a new one because I need a small tractor with a pto and class 1 hitch.I would love to buy a powermax but there is nothing in my area(Long Island,NY) for over 2 years now.Has anybody had any expirience with these Chinese tractor be it good or bad?Are parts available?The thought of buying anything foreign made turns my stomach BUT Deere has Kawasaki and Honda power,ALL 2 and 3 cylinder diesel engines in compact tractors are foreign made no matter who makes the tractor.The way I see this one is it's all right for the manufacturers to buy foreign and I'm just taking it to the next level.

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pacodiablo
Are you talking about Yanmars, Isekis and the like? Those are actually Japanese for the most part. They do a lot of work for the US companies, so they can't be all bad. Some of them are tough little machines. As for parts, there are many places in the US that deal with them. They restore, refurbish and sell parts for many of these tractors. Here are some links... http://www.best-used-tractors.com/index.html http://www.compacttractorconnection.com/index.htm http://www.kubota.com/ http://www.iseki.co.jp/english/index.html http://www.jinma.co.uk/ http://www.oktractors.com/

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patrician12
I saw those tractors on the Homier site.They seem to be the same ones that everyone else is selling for thousands less.Is that possible?I'm not sure.I did buy a mini lathe from them that everyone else wanted $500.00 for $299.00!!!!!!

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Les
The problem that I have heard about with the Chinese tractors is the hydraulics, they say that your hydraulic pump will only last about 200 hours before going out. I feel your pain, I looked for a good AC 720 for several years, the few that I found either had shot engines or had asking prices of $4000 and up! Plus the thought of a $2000 new short block(before labor) just didnt seem to make sense. I personally would opt for a used Kubota over a new Chinese job. My second choice would be a gray market Yanmar, Hinomoto, Mitsubishi, etc. They start around $2000 for the smaller ones. I was lucky enough to get a good Kubota for under $2000. It sure is nice having a regular Cat I 3 point and 540 PTO(used Cat 0 implements are nearly impossible to find), it sure gives you a lot of flexibility when going to auctions and the rental store.

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powermax_paul
Of the Gray market tractors, I'd mostly trust the Yanmars and Iseki's. Agco ST series is mostly Iseki, as were the AC and Simplicity compacts of the late 80's. I think the the newer Cub Cadet compacts and JD's are powered by Yanmar diesels. Think maybe you have to consider stability of trade relations between US and either Japan or China. We've been working with the Japanese a lot more in the last 30 years or so.

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arnoldir
Hello, Now that I've picked up a 720, and all the problems that go along with it, I'd say buy a used USA Spec Kubota. I'll likely be going that route. My pride and joy is a Diesel Magnatrac, and the 720 was purchased as backup. I'm on the Island, drop me a PM if I can help.

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Stoneheartfarm
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Originally posted by pacodiablo
Those are US clones of Jinmas.
They are made by Jinma, just with a different name. There are no US companies copying Chinese tractors at this time. Also Agracat is a Jinma and half a dozen others. There are over half a dozen different tractor manufacturers in China, but Jinma is currently the most popular in the US, probably followed by Dong Feng. Here's a link to a discussion about Farm Pro tractors. There are several other discussions about them on this site, so look around. While the Farm Pros are cheaper, you would probably be better off buying from Northern Tool as they are rated pretty good on parts. Research before you buy. http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=china Parts are probably no harder to get than they would be for a grey market tractor. You might have to wait to get some of them, or you might not, depending on what is in stock. Keep in mind these tractors are made in China. All of the tractor. Hoses, batteries, belts, engines, tires. There are some dealers that try to tell people the engines are Mitsubishi or Kubota. They are not. The Chinese manufacture millions of diesel engines every year and to the best of my knowledge do not import from Japan or anywhere else. Here is a link to a website that an owner has set up. There s a Jinma survey there that allows owners to post about problems encountered. http://johnstractor.homestead.com/ Hope this helps. Steve

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