Guest Posted August 7, 2003 Posted August 7, 2003 I looked at two cubs (price of one) yesterday at a flea market, both same model, 127. Both had very poor steering (front ends) is this a common problem with them? No im not taking this question to the cub club:) I dont know anything about them, they seem like a good tractor though $pendy. DougM
rokon2813 Posted August 7, 2003 Posted August 7, 2003 Every older cub I've ever seen has "loose" steering. Besides the joints wearing at each end of the steer arms look for the steering box bolts to be loose. About 3 months after you tighten them, look for them to be loose again. Also if it was well used the pivot pin in the axle will be worn. Because of how the engine mounts the rear end of the pin can only go about 1/2 inch into the frame and if the front roll pin breaks on it it can move backward and rub on the engine. I answered because I'm a nice guy. I would never claim to be a cub expert here LOL
Guest Posted August 7, 2003 Posted August 7, 2003 Heck Dan experts can be nice guys to!! just look around you. Ya know the tractors were pretty clean, i took one for a test burn and thought about how a yeoman has better steering. Doug
KSever Posted August 7, 2003 Posted August 7, 2003 What the heck is a Cub Doug? Is that something that growls:D
Woodydel Posted August 7, 2003 Posted August 7, 2003 I own many Cub Cadets. Aside from worn out parts such as tie rod ends etc. There are no steering parts which exibit a high rate of wear. Steering problems are usually caused by operator negligence in making simple periodic adjustments. Every operators manual has the procedures for easy adjustment of the steering box. The steering cam is a simple spiral which in turn has a pin which rides within this spiral. The pin is tapered. This pin is adjusted to eliminate any backlash in the steering (looseness). Once adjusted it has a lock nut. It does not loosen once tightened to specification. The end play of the steering cam is adjusted with the slotted plug at the end of the steering box. Once adjusted a cotter pin locks it in place. More people need to buy and READ manuals. Anyway, They steer as good as any other garden tractor and are easy to fix. What part rubs on the engine?
rokon2813 Posted August 7, 2003 Posted August 7, 2003 Now youve heard from someone who knows more than I do. I only know what I see around here. Woody the part ive seen rub is the steering pivot pin. On two different machines the front roll pin had sheared allowing the pivot pin to slide backward and rub on the bottom of the engine where it hangs down slightly behind the steer axle. In any event neither machine was mine and I could only guess how they were maintained and used. Though judging from the condition and the loose bolts etc I can make an educated guess that they were "rode hard and put away wet" By the way, Yes they are a good heavy duty machine if taken care of.
HubbardRA Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Keep in mind that there isn't a machine made that can't be broken. The biggest cause of breakage and wear is usually the driver.
JP Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Hey Doug, I've had a few 'Cubs' & seems their front ends are a little 'weak' & tend to get slop in them. As Woody sez, ya gotta maintain them like anything else. Seem to be weak on running things off the back too. I find Simplicity/Allis much easier to run attachments like tillers & blowers. I currently have a 1250 with a fresh engine about to go on the market (when I get the time...). All in all, not a 'Bad unit'. I still have my preferences......... More pennies for your jar........ 8-) Take Care, JP
cyclone700 Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 One other thing I've seen happen to the CC front ends is when the pivot pin does not get greased and rusts solid into the front axle and then sheers the roll pin. After that happens, the pin wears out the collars it rides in. I've seen this on three different tractors.
Les Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 Up here in Illinois we got a REAL Cub Cadet enthusiast and expert, his name is SmilinSam
SmilinSam Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Les Up here in Illinois we got a REAL Cub Cadet enthusiast and expert, his name is SmilinSam Whats in that coffee cup you're drinkin out of Les ????????? You must have me confused with Club Member Bill Wells up in Rockford....
Les Posted August 8, 2003 Posted August 8, 2003 quote:Originally posted by SmilinSam quote:Originally posted by Les Up here in Illinois we got a REAL Cub Cadet enthusiast and expert, his name is SmilinSam Whats in that coffee cup you're drinkin out of Les ????????? You must have me confused with Club Member Bill Wells up in Rockford.... Just speaking from experience as I have PERSONALLY witnessed SmilinSam buying two cub cadets at an auction.
Bill_Wells Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 I may "lean" towards the Cubs a bit......But I still have a couple of those "orange machines " around here someplace !!!!!! Cub front ends do need some attention, but no more than any of the rest, I think a drop of oil would help all of em. Four "knuckles" and a new pin, and there as good as new.
SmilinSam Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 quote:Just speaking from experience as I have PERSONALLY witnessed SmilinSam buying two cub cadets at an auction. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh................not so loud:D
MPH Posted August 9, 2003 Posted August 9, 2003 Must be the rocks they get driven on in Alaska that beats frontends on any Simple/AC I've found, thier all beat to snot, if it moves, its lose..Kinda like the 3 inch misus dynomited rock on the road constuction job going to anchorage, 4 trips, 3 tires ate, changed one last nite so fast I caught up with the pilot car carivan, which was pushin a mile long and I started in the first third of the line...MPH
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