jjouelle Posted August 11, 2003 Posted August 11, 2003 Can anyone tell me where I can get a Briggs 23d engine for my 1964 Landlord? It's in perfect condition, kept indoors its entire life, but the engine is blown and can't be rebuilt. Thanks jjouelle
DavidG Posted August 11, 2003 Posted August 11, 2003 Unless there is something terribly unrepairable with your engine, It would be easier to rebuild vs. trying to find a 23d in "like new" or very good condition. They seem to be pretty hard to find. Dave
jjouelle Posted August 11, 2003 Author Posted August 11, 2003 quote:Originally posted by Rob-B hello, just curious why you can't rebuild. rob I'm no mechanic, but the guy I brought it to told me that I spun the berring and the shaft is bent. He said that IF it could be done, it would cost me somewhere around $600!
PatRarick Posted August 11, 2003 Posted August 11, 2003 What you were told makes no real sense to me. The crankshaft is almost impossible to bend unless you have run into something. A bearing can go out, but you can't spin a bearing in these engines, as there are no bearing inserts to spin. These engines have ball bearings on the flywheel side. The ball bearings seldom go out in a manner that will damage the crankshaft. The PTO side has a plain bearing that is part of the engine cover. This seldom damages the crankshaft unless the engine is run for an extended period of time or with a load bearing on that end of the crankshaft. The connecting rod bearing can go, but new rods are available in undersize so the crankshaft can be machined down if required. In any event, a new crankshaft is $215, the ball bearing is $39. the cover is $49, and a rod is $46 for a total of $349. Seems to me, at that average labor rate, you could add a set of rings and have the valves ground and still be in the $600 range. I'd check with another mechanic. Pat
Rob-B Posted August 12, 2003 Posted August 12, 2003 good morning, i agree with pat...............just take amin or two and pop the oil pan off. its only 4 bolts that hold it on. flip the engine up side down down look inside. see if the connecting rod is broke. if it is i would have a machine shop mic it..............and get a rod thats fits your measurement. my local dealer said he has never had a crank turned. just put on a rod and put it back together. he also said he has never had a bent crank.
jjouelle Posted August 12, 2003 Author Posted August 12, 2003 Thanks a lot guys, I guess I'd better get my tractor back and get it to someone else for a second opinion because I wouldn't have the background or the knowledge to rebuilit myself unless someone was there leading me through the process.
Bunky Posted August 12, 2003 Posted August 12, 2003 Yes I agree I would get a second opinion.. It seems hard to believe the cranks bent... you can probably find a used crcank and rebuild it.....
MPH Posted August 12, 2003 Posted August 12, 2003 John, welcome to the site by the way. I say rebuild it yourself. Get a manual, take pics as you tear down, have a good machine shop check your bore and valves, and you found a whole bunch of great guys willing to guide you though the project, heck, they even can tell you the home for parts/bolts you forgot where they went if you post a pic of them. I say go for it...MPH
9934059 Posted August 12, 2003 Posted August 12, 2003 Hi!! My brother and I rebuilt a 23D for my '64 Landlord over the 4th of July (it was a "smoker"). A good project! He has rebuilt Kohler engines but never a Briggs. The Briggs and Stratton engine manual is available to help guide through the process. Good luck!!
Agricola Posted August 13, 2003 Posted August 13, 2003 The Briggs manual might be on their site as a PDF. Another idea is to have the shop classes in the high school rebuild the engine for you. Many of the schools want projects for the students to do. All you have to do is supply the parts and they supply labor. I wonder if they want to paint my Landlord? :-)
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