bigcountry Posted August 13, 2003 Posted August 13, 2003 Is the Simplicity 7010 a garden or lawn tractor?? It looks to be a garden tractor, but I may be mistaken. Did they come with a Briggs and Stratton? How much would one be worth with out an engine or deck? Thanks.
BLT Posted August 13, 2003 Posted August 13, 2003 7010 Landlord was a baby Soverign of that year, up to 10 HP I think and had smaller tires. Other then that, they are part for part. Isn't worth much with out engine or deck and I can't even tell you what the value of "much" is.
Dadsy98 Posted August 13, 2003 Posted August 13, 2003 I found my 7010 on the roadside with a "for sale" sign taped to it. I watched it sit there for about three weeks. I finally stopped and inquired about it. Had a 42" deck and snow blower with it. engine was in pieces in a few cardboard boxes. $250.00 was the asking price. I brought it home that afternoon. A few months later I came across a K241 at a yard sale for $50.00. ever since I have abused it and treated it like dirt. It plowed snow all winter, graded the drive in the spring and is currently the yard mule hauling 350 gallons of water in a truckbed trailer twice a week. Steve
IronPony Posted August 14, 2003 Posted August 14, 2003 How about a picture of your little slave pulling the trailer, Steve?
UCD Posted August 14, 2003 Posted August 14, 2003 The 7000 series were Large frame garden tractors. The Landlord was the predecessor of the Sovereign. As far as what they are worth depending on condition with out engine and mower deck any where from $10.00 to $400.00. I have seen dealers sell ones in good shape with out deck or engine for $400.00. The rest of the parts if you part it out are worth that.
bigcountry Posted August 14, 2003 Author Posted August 14, 2003 The reason I'm asking is this. In the Ag. shop class I'm in, I have to have a project for each semester and I thought it'd be a good idea this time to fix up a tractor. I've seen a 7010 on here in the classifieds that's disassembled but has everything but the engine, deck and bgb. I'd like for it to have everything but an engine, and I don't need a deck, so that way I can power it up the way I'd like to, and it'd be more useful as a 'yard tractor' anyway. How is the engine oriented in it? Also, how expensive would a used bgb be? I'm not interested in making it a mower, just a project tractor to work with and 'play' with.
Dadsy98 Posted August 14, 2003 Posted August 14, 2003 Dan, Picture forthcoming, watch this space :) Here is the 7010 with a fully loaded trailer. The tank capacity is 350 gallons and it's full to the brim. That poor tractor doesn't even break a sweat. I rebuilt the carb a week ago, so it runs like a Swiss watch :) Steve
IronPony Posted August 16, 2003 Posted August 16, 2003 Thanks for the pic, Steve. I'm impressed!! Dan
jkmustang1 Posted August 16, 2003 Posted August 16, 2003 2800lbs for water only. 500lbs or more for the trailer. wow !!!!!
Dadsy98 Posted August 16, 2003 Posted August 16, 2003 congratulations Jon! I'm fortunate with my water hauling because the garden is up a slight grade from the well about a 500 ft run. So, I'm going down hill the tank is fairly empty. Might be scary the other way around. Steve
Les Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 My experience is that I have never ran out of pulling, or pushing power with a 10 hp engine. It is always getting traction is the problem. Mowing is a different concern, I can really tell the difference between 10 and 16 hp when mowing heavy grass.
Dadsy98 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Makes sense Les, once I get 3000 lbs moving it doesn't take a lot of power to continue. Mowing on the other hand, that is a continual load on the engine. Steve
Dadsy98 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Well Max, what do you think? Are you going for the 7010? It's only shortcoming is that it's a RBT... ;) Steve
Les Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 You know I may be a smart alec, but after a close look at that tractor pulling the trailer, the driver must be a real hard ass.
rokon2813 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Les think thats got something to do with the "Dad" thing. As I recall "Dad"dycat has a couple those seats too......
bigcountry Posted August 17, 2003 Author Posted August 17, 2003 Well I saw a picture of the unit, and it's in about 50 million pieces and needs a bgb, a driveshaft, a rear pulley, and an engine. But my idea was to make it my shop project, so....I'm leaning towards getting it, and I believe I'm gonna be in that feller's town next weekend anyway. I think $20 will get the whole tractor (since it's all in pieces), and if I can get a shop manual on it, I think I'll be ok.
bigcountry Posted August 17, 2003 Author Posted August 17, 2003 I almost forgot, what series of engines would work in it? I believe I'm gonna look at used engines for the time being to just drop in to get it drivable, if I get it. And I figure since it's already in pieces, I'll paint everything as I go as well.
Dadsy98 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Well guys, to me a plush cushion seat is a nice extra. it won't make the tractor run any better. When I get one of my toys all refurbished and shiney I'll spring for a $60.00 seat :) Max, My very first tractor was in pieces when I got it. I know you can handle it. The manuals are on the Simplicity site. Steve
Dadsy98 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Any Kohler horizontal engine will fit. The K series is an easy drop in. I'm using a Wheel Horse K241. Briggs 24343 is another. A little ingenuity and searching this site will get you through! Steve
bigcountry Posted August 17, 2003 Author Posted August 17, 2003 What would I have to do to get a Briggs to fit? I don't know if I'd be able to find a good cheap Kohler around here.
Dadsy98 Posted August 17, 2003 Posted August 17, 2003 Do you know what engine was originally in the 7010? For either a Briggs or a Kohler You'll need the drive shaft adapter and configure the wiring. Hopefully you get the engine parts with the tractor. Then you'll have a start on the engine transplant. A few shims and a few spacers/washers will make just about anything work :) Steve
bigcountry Posted August 18, 2003 Author Posted August 18, 2003 I talked to a friend of mine today that his father has a bunch of Cub Cadets laying around and he said he'd look for a Kohler K-241 for me. I hope he's got one, I believe this will be the determining factor in whether I get it or not.
thedaddycat Posted August 18, 2003 Posted August 18, 2003 I thought the 7000 series was Briggs powered and the 7100 series was Kohler powered.
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