MoAC610 Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 Ok I have a Front LOader Question, I am purchasing a Big Ten from one of the members in the next few days. Can someone explain to me how they mount and what is required to do it. And my next question would be for the classifieds I need a complete setup. I will have to wait until i get the tractor to get model numbers so i know what to ask for. Does anyone here use the front loader on a regular basis? Any plus or minuses i should be aware of Plan to use it to move gravel and concrete break up ( Redoing Driveway ) Any help would be appreciated Thanks. Anyone looking for a B10 Kenk has one for sale Looks sweet. But hands of the Big Ten and Snowblower :)
Kent Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 Here's the Owner's Manual for the Simplicity 515 -- the equivalent of the L-12 loader -- so you can see how it mounts. http://www.simpletractors.com/operation/515_loader/front_loader_515.htm Be prepared to look long and hard to find one, since lots of other people are looking for them too...
MPH Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 I've seen guys find a FEW of them needles in the haystack since I been on this site. Good luck to you. A Johnny bucket may do what you need. Don't believe your gonna rip up concrete drive with any garden tractor without reckin the loader..MPH
Kent Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 I agree with sunbird... If you're going to be moving heavy stuff like concrete. You'd certainly have to jackhammer it up in small pieces. I have one (a 515), and it'll lift about 300 lbs or so. It doesn't did very well at all, though. Not heavy enough, not enough traction, and single-action cylinders on the lift arms (you can only curl the bucket)... These are designed for moving loose material, not digging, nor handling real heavy stuff. That said, they're a VERY useful tool for their size...
Leroy Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 Can you run into a pile of dirt get a full load, pick it up and back out? Or do you have to load it like a wheel barrow and if bucket starts to droop you have too much in it, kinna thing? I was spectin it to haul a full bucket of steamy composeted horse manooer. How many trips does it take to fill a full size pick up bed with your choice of product?
SmilinSam Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 I moved a truck load of gravel with the one Kent has before he came and got it. Half to 2/3 buckets is all it will handle "Safely" without undue stress to the machine. What I used it for where it really excelled was in moving piles of mulch , wood chips, and loose dirt.
Kent Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 The one I got from Sam has had the bucket enlarged by about 4" or so, all the way around the opening. With this larger bucket, it will lift a "stroked" full bucket of dirt, but not of large rocks. The valves will bypass before it'll lift them. I haven't tried it with gravel, nor have I tried loading a pickup.... I dug an old stone foundation out of the hillside in the woods behind the house -- so it will dig, but not like a Bobcat. I've moved most of the stones that it will lift, but I still haven't made/found a stone boat to drag the biggest ones out with... just haven't had time or weather. I can only do it when the woods are dry -- and they haven't been this summer! It will certainly pick up a bucket of dirt out of a pile, but curling the bucket simultaneously helps speed it up... you'd have no problems with a full bucket of manure as long as it wasn't sopping wet.
Leroy Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 Well thats not bad then. Kent you seem to prefer the B10 and big 10 true? Why not a powermax or 620?
Kent Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 Leroy, A PowrMax is simply too big for my property... if it weren't for snow removal, I couldn't rationalize something as big as the Landlord/Sovereign just to mow with... So, I have lots of different attachments to use on the smaller, more maneuverable (and much less expensive) tractors... If I had 2 - 5 acres, I'd be in the market for a PowrMax, or a new 4WD Legacy... :D
MPH Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 I can relate to you thinking a PowrMax is a big tractor Kent, But mine will turn a cirle inside the circle my B-112 makes. Still has me questioning my own feeling about it being too big for yard work..MPH
Leroy Posted August 22, 2003 Posted August 22, 2003 Isn't more power faster at the work at hand not necessarily too big? The quanitity and quality of the implements makes good sense. I have seen many larger tractors for sale with just one implement or none. It is a rare find to get a tiller and plow or usefull stuff with a working tractor. It's even rarer to find one in Oregon.
MPH Posted August 23, 2003 Posted August 23, 2003 Leroy, you want slim pickings, come to Alaska. Prices I've paid compared to what I see here make me think I must have lost my mind..MPH
MoAC610 Posted August 23, 2003 Author Posted August 23, 2003 Thanks for all the replies and helpfull information I am not ripping up the driveway just laying down the new gravel after the crew breaks the concrete and removes it. So i figure the blade and Loader would be very handy indeed. A friend of mine is hauling the gravel ina and can dump while moving making less work fro me. Still trying to avoid the shovel work as much as possible. Everyone seems to think the double acting clinders are the best.Yes or no ?
Kent Posted August 23, 2003 Posted August 23, 2003 If you're only spreading gravel, a Johnny Bucket would work also, though perhaps not as quickly as a loader... The double acting cylinders allow you to lift the front of the tractor off the ground and place its weight on the bucket which helps it dig below grade level. You can get almost the same effect by slightly curling the bucket using single-acting cylinders... As far as I know, none of the Simplicity/Allis loaders for the Sovereign/Landlord class machines of the time had double acting cylinders. Some aftermarket ones, like a Johnson or Quik-way did...
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