rjgoth Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 Hello gang, I brought my 1966 Landlord home last night. I am begining the restoration process to restore the tractor to original factory condition -- thats my goal anyway.:) It is in pretty decient shape and has a hydro-lift and a hi-low transmission. I got this tractor about 13 years ago for free, used it to cut grass and plow snow. It has been sitting in my dads barn for the past 8 years. This group has motivated me to restore it. I do have a question regarding the year of this tractor. According to the Simplicity section of this site it is either a 1965 or 66. Model number 990351, it had a stripe on the hood and a 101 sticker on it also when I got it. Can someone help me clarify the proper date? Also any advise or guidance on this restoration process would be very much appreciated. Thank you, Ryan
thedaddycat Posted October 28, 2003 Posted October 28, 2003 OK Ryan, you asked for it and now you're going to get the low down.... I checked the cross reference tables both S-AC and AC-S to confirm that this 990351 Landlord(990350 w/ manual lift)corresponds to the 2025061 Allis Chalmers Big Ten tractor. The year of manufacture listed in those two tables and the Made When table puts it as 1965. I have an original 101 hood that still has the decals on it that was going to be used on my Big Ten. If you want to swap hoods we can, otherwise I'll just have to strip it down. You would get the hood with the correct decals to base your restoration on and I'd get a hood to repaint that doesn't look like it has the decals left. Has it been repainted? Anyhow, if you're interested let me know. As far as doing the restoration, I can tell you that the best thing you can do is take a ton of pics BEFORE you start taking ANYTHING apart.... Take a lot of detail shots. Take pics from different angles. Take pics as you take smaller stuff off the tractor. Look at how the hardware is arranged, which washers, spacers, anything went in what order. Take it apart and lay it out in order and take a pic of it... The idea is to get as much detail as you can. I have gone back to pics of parts just to look in the backgrounds for details of how things went exactly. Have a notebook and a parts manual to compare what is actually on your tractor against what is supposed to be there. Note and describe what's different so you can make sure to either put it back that way or restore it to stock. One thing I've noted is that the OEM hardware is almost all Rockford and has a head stmped "R" on the bolt heads. How detailed do you want to get with this thing??? If you really take your time and get exactly the right parts, you can do close to a "Museum Quality" job on it. OTOH, there's something to be said for "Original Unrestored" too.....
rjgoth Posted October 28, 2003 Author Posted October 28, 2003 Thank you, Thats good advise. Looks like the digital camera will get a good workout. I have the pictures of a 101 hood with the decals still on it that I can go form to make some new ones up with. I am looking for a Can muffler that came with these engines originally, do you know if they are still made? Also what would be a recommendation of a possible more quiet muffler that still is about the size of a stock one? Thanks for the reply. Ryan
JimC_Vt Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 Nice tractor,looks just like my 1966 ,excalty,can mufflers run $50.00 new ! I just got a used one from a member for $35.00.... Good luck on the restore,I'm slowly chipping away on mine ! Jim
AC808 Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 Nice looking tractor...Im right now negotiating a price for a pair of late 60s Simplicitys. Hopefully theyll end up in my garage soon...Ryan,still interested in finding a tractor salvage area in WI? Im north east of you and i was told of one just north of me...Ill let you know if i get up there to check it out... jay
rjgoth Posted October 29, 2003 Author Posted October 29, 2003 Thanks again for the replys. Where can one get a new Nelson can style muffler? I check with Jacks and couldnt find on on their website. Jay, yes please let me know what you find at the salvage yard. Leave some good stuff for me tho. ;) Ryan
jkmustang1 Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 Go right to them nelsonmuffler.com I found the web site on a search.
ambler Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 Try [url]http://www.nelsondiv.com [/url]they are part of cummins now.
stormy2163 Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 Hi Ryan Looks like we got the same tractor?What happened to the stripe?Good luck on your project.I have no idea how mine will turn out but hope to get it going in the future.:)
rjgoth Posted October 29, 2003 Author Posted October 29, 2003 Thank you for the link... Thats what I was looking for. The stripe is going to be put back on. I am making my own decal set up so if you want some of the decals I have the file here to get them made with, I can have some made up for you too (complete with stripe):) Ryan
stormy2163 Posted October 29, 2003 Posted October 29, 2003 That would be great.I was going to ask about them seems I read it somewhere else.I have the flu so I have not felt like doing to much.The doctor told me to stay in:(!The S on the front of mine has a big rusty scratch in it.
BigSix Posted October 30, 2003 Posted October 30, 2003 Ryan: FREE, the prettiest model they made, IMHO, AND hydro-lift AND Hi-Lo? You, my friend, are "livin' the dream!" And I'm glad you're into the restoration thing. Not at all opposed to the beauty of an original unrestored, but again, what a beautiful resto candidate you have there. I think Kirk is dead on with the pics idea. My hood support bolts fell out, all over the yard, on a test run of my 700 W.B., and I have no clear idea of what spacers/washers/bolts/nuts were there to begin with. With pics I could make up what I'm missing. Congrats! Peter
rjgoth Posted October 30, 2003 Author Posted October 30, 2003 Thanks Peter. I am very eager to get started on the disassembly process of the restoration. My wife is leaving for the entire weekend and I will have nothing to do but work on the tractor!!! :) 8D Speaking of hood bolts, does anyone know where a guy can get a set of those? Mine are missing also, and I would really like to get a nice set for the tractor. Ryan
tractormike Posted October 30, 2003 Posted October 30, 2003 Ryan, Nice looking tractor you have there!!! You have quite a work horse there with just about all the options. I am shure you will have fun restoring this tractor and have a great time using it. If you find any tractor junkyards let me know. I live in western Wi. and have not found any around here, but have found a few tractors sitting here and there. Congratulations on your new toy!
rjgoth Posted October 30, 2003 Author Posted October 30, 2003 I believe the part number for the Nelson muffler is 157634.
jkmustang1 Posted October 30, 2003 Posted October 30, 2003 If he is right count me in for one I need one for my B10 allis named Ralph Please this is no joke.
UCD Posted October 30, 2003 Posted October 30, 2003 Mike Was wondering when you were going to step in. I lost your email addy and with crs couldn't remember your user name. Jon It is no joke Mike/Hoss worked on getting me a muffler for my 7790 for about 6 mts. Then a member parted out his 7790 and I got his complete with the chrome heat shield and it was like new. Mike is not a miricle worker but he will do what he can to help.
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