maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 I recently got my 712H stuck and cant get it out. I cant use another machine because its at the bottom of a steep hill and there is nobody else to drive it. I need to get it out. What is the best way to get it out? Thanks
thedaddycat Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Is the only way to get it out back up the hill??? Are there any big rocks or trees that you could use as an anchor point for a come-along or winch? A long cable with a few pulleys to redirect angle of pull and a pick up truck usually does it for me........
papamerkle Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 If you can drive it out try putting something under the wheels to gain ground clearance. If that won't work find youself a winch to pull you tractor out. GOOD LUCK
maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 Thanks for your suggestions but its sorta in the middle of a field and there are no trees near it and its stuck in mud about 6" deep. I dont know what to do. I could use the 917 but it dosnet have chains or anything. And i have only 1 battery. [V]
Agricola Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 I think I would sort of do it like I do my pickup when I get stuck on ice. Put it in gear, get out and push it. Just make sure you can keep up with it. I have yet to lose my pickup but it has come close a few times.
thedaddycat Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 OK, get some 2X8, 10, or 12 boards at least 6' to 8' long and a few shorter ones too. If it's real sloppy get some maybe 2' - 4' 2X4 to lay cross ways under them for support. You'll have to get it dug out enough to get the short boards under the wheels and get it up on them. Then you just lay out the "roadway" and move forward until you run out of wood to ride. Now move the boards ahead of you and repeat. It's slow and messy(face it, you're in mud...) and a lot of work but it will get you out eventually... This is just another example of how weight and tire width and traction all tie together. If you had wider tires you'd have a bigger footprint and better distribution of weight. The force per unit area would be lower(less traction) but you won't have as much tendency to sink in. The same goes for wheel weights. If you're sunk in but can easily remove the weights that would help. I had to till some sand into a raised bed once, it had a nice 3" layer on top of the screened loam underneath. The problem was that the loam was so wet the it was like fresh cement. I'm not kidding, you could pat your hand on top of the loam half a dozen times and watch the water pool up on the surface. Now the sand was what he called concrete sand, and it drained well and formed a nice firm crust on top of the loam. The problem came in when I started tilling it in and no longer had a crust to support the tractor. It took no time at all to get burried right up to the axle/tranny and this with the tiller hanging off the back. I tried to use the tiller as an extra set of "Iron Wheels" to help push to no avail. I had to resort to the board trick, but only had to go about 20' to get out.....
RickS Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Do you have a boat anchor or access to one? Use the anchor at one end of a winch and the tractor at the other. Or you could drive several large stakes in the ground at a 45 degree angle. Attach the winch to these stakes and then put the tractor out. If it is really stuck, bury a spare tire and use that as a winch point. You could try jacking the tractor up and placing boards under the tires. then drive forward. If the mud is really deep, you may need several boards to create a bridge of sorts over the mud. Rick...........
maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 I have to back out anyways because there is a big puddle in front that i think is too big to put boards over. I have nothing better to do now but take puctures. I'd say its stuck for a few days.... I sorta wandered off the path...
McGill Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Well, I could try to explain how to get a tank out of quick sand. But the tecnique might be over kill. How about a long plank as a base and then use a cement block and a pipe or 4x4 to pry one rear wheel at a time out of the mud. When the tires out or up a little push "anyting" in the hole to keep the tire up. Then do the other side and repeat as nesassary.
thedaddycat Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Seeing the pics, I'd say start her and put it in reverse. You should have no problem getting a board under the tires, just push and let her walk herself out. You may want to get a 10' post or small log to lift up on the front end as she pulls backwards. That should help break the suction of the mud around the front wheels... Stuck, yes.... Messy, yes.... Hopeless, not even....... Heck, looking at it you might be able to get away with just throwing a sheet of plywood down and drive right out...
bigdaddy Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Use a Hi-Lift Jack. Lift an end and then swing it over to higher ground, then do the same to the other end and keep on doing this until you are out.
maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 It is very messy, but do you thik its worth taking the 917 down and trying to dig the blade in then using the winch? I just thought of something else too, do you think i could pull the front end up onto the path then drive it out? The only reason i cant drive out is the tire wont go up onto the packed down path. Other than that i think i can do it that way.?
maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 You're right daddycat, it was nowhere near hopeless.:) THanks for all your help, but once i took the 917 down it was effortless. I just hooked to the front axle and pulled her out. I have a flat on the front right? that i have no idea where i got it but its out.:D
MN_FISH Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Does your 917 have chains on it If so I would drive down and hook a chain or tow rope to the far front axle and pull it out. The more angle you have with the pulling tractor the front of the one stuck should get on the path. If it is a hydro make sure that you have it disengaged or the tranny is in neutral. Be careful so you don't end up with both of them stuck:(!. If you use a tow rope make sure it is strong so you don't end up with the slingshot effect and get hurt if it breaks if you are jerking on it. Bring a shovel and dig a trail for the front tires to follow. Should work^
maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 No, the 917 dosnet have chains. Each tire has 50lb weights. I forgot to disengage the tranny:(!. I just pulled it out with a chain and the tires followed. Everythings alright though. I changed the flat, and they are both working great. :D What can forgeting to disengage the transmission do?
MN_FISH Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Looks like my post was a little late:I Glad you got it out:D If it is a hydro some of them will act like a park brake and when you pull it the wheels will slide. Don't knowB) enough about these tractors yet so thought I would mention it.;)
KSever Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 I would not want to clean that tractor. That is for sure alot of mud.
mongson Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 I'm glad that it came out. It looked like an awfully sad tractor being stuck in the mud and all. I hope that it got treated to a nice cleaning and oil change after that ordeal.
KenK Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Disengaging the hydro will give you a somewhat free wheeling affect.Considering you where in that much goo it probably would'nt make much difference anyway.If you ever have to pull it on dry make sure to disengage the hydro.You can harm the piston pump in the hydro if pulling.
wantedinct Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 And i thought i was the only one that did stuff like that :)
maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 Dont worry, thats not the first time:I
MN_FISH Posted November 5, 2003 Posted November 5, 2003 Your tracksB) gave you away being they head straight into the mud;) At least it is out:D
maxtorman1234 Posted November 5, 2003 Author Posted November 5, 2003 The tracks are very well packed down, if i stayed on them, i would have been ok. I have recently started going up the grassy area from where i am standing;)
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