thedaddycat Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 When does 1+1=1 and 1-1=2???? Pics tomorrow.......
thedaddycat Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 I got this parts LL with a Briggs Model 23 D, Type 0129 01, Serial 79375 that was manufactured in January of 1965. Just for the heck of it, I hooked up the booster pack and she cranked. A quick check with the spark tester showed good. I thought to myself, Why Not?? A shot of starter fluid got me a nice short set of pops and bangs, rather loud ones since there's no muffler... Though not the original color, it will do..... It came with "another..." 42" stiffie plow. I tell you these things are getting to be like dandelions around here.... If anybody wants one of these things I'll give you a good deal. Oh yeah, the bolt together deck spins freely. Not too bad a score, eh? The decal is intact, and the serial number is clear.... Tranny looks decent, no major leak indicators and it even has the rope cup starter. Hey, wait a minute... Where'd all that yellow come from??? Oh, that's just the B-12.... As Rob and I talked about last night when we went to get these two, it sure looks like someone took the good rear from the LL and put it on the B-12. The "spare" BGB is trashed but on cursory inspection looks fixable. If not I have others. It has three of the four hood nuts, decent tin and decals, a deck, rear lift and is not in too bad a shape either. The carb needs work but the engine runs fine if you dribble gas in. I took a stroll around the yard and grabbed a few pieces of tin that were laying around. With a good BGB and swapping the right rear ends back to the right tractors, it sure enough looks like there are two good tractors there.... Like I said, 1+1=1 when it was done the first time. Now 1-1=2 when it's fixed..... And this is the cherry on top!! I mean who could turn down a Briggs Model 19, Type 706047 complete with regulator, S/G and carb. This is the correct one for a 725 or B-1. Take a look at the points cover. I don't recall seeing one like that with a Stop button sticking out, and it looks a lot more box-like with squared corners. I just couldn't in good concience come back and haggle for a better price when he said "Hey, if you want this old engine I'll throw it in for $20"....
MDB Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Looks like quite a haul there Kirk, Between you and Dan your getting the corner on the tarctor market out East LOL;):D Good for you^
rokon2813 Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Generally the ones with the kill button were on a power unit of some sort. Maybe somebody switched the points cover. I hace a couple around here with that cover too. I'll PM you on the "dandelions". Dan
MPH Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Once again, nice score.. Your kids are gonna run outta names...My model 19 has the point cover as you decribed. Hey, maybe its a dating clue....MPH Kirk, are the serial #'s any use in dating??My 725, I can read the serial # but not the product #..thanks
ehertzfeld Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Nice Kirk if you keep finding things like that I will definatly have to go back for a visit!lol Elon
HubbardRA Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 The original engine on my 61 Wards had the same kill switch. Unfortunately I no longer have that engine.
thedaddycat Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 I looked at two other Model 19 engines I have(from Reed and Dan) and both have that Stop button on them. The Putt Putt and the kids' 725 do not have it. I don't think the one I sold from the parts 725 had it either....
ReedS Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Dang it!:p I made the guy an offer but I guess you had the right trade and saw the ad before I did! LOL! I guess I gonna put out the white flag and just let you collect them so that I know where they'll B when I'm looking for parrts. Btw most of the 19's that I have seen have had the kill button on the points cover. Was the B's eng an actual 12hp or not? how did sound when it was running? Just curious, wondering if I missed a good one.........
thedaddycat Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 It's available to you, Reed if you really want it.......
ReedS Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Kirk, I should really just thank you for allowing me to save my cash!;) I don't really need it but when I saw the ad I couldn't resist the chance to maybe pickup a pile of parts that weren't too far away! Let me think about it for a while......at least I know what happened to them.:D
dirtsaver Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 You fellows can have the eastern market... north eastern that is! Just remember DaleC , myself and a few others are down below the Mason Dixon grabbing up the spoils when we find them! The most important thing is that every piece one of us gets is a saved relic. And BTW Kirk.....dang good haul bud!! Larry
rokon2813 Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Looks like someone added a lift bracket to the left side. Thats different. OOO and deck covers with the foot guards. Looks like some nice pieces. On second look, the dual lift must be for the 2 lift chains on the bolt deck. Not a bad idea actually...
thedaddycat Posted November 11, 2003 Author Posted November 11, 2003 Larry, you should know that I don't limit myself to just New England. I've gone past Baltimore for a tractor, and Virginia ain't all that far from there..... LOL When I'm not getting them for myself(or having folks call up for me to come get it for $20, or just drop it in my yard when I'm not home), I fire off PMs and emails to friends far and wide. Bunky out in Michigan and that down home Dixie gal, Stormy have both scored off a heads up from me. Nothing's better than getting thanked for giving away other folks' stuff... lol Besides, having tractors to trade with can be a good tool to get some of the more unusual or less common things that come up from time to time.
MDB Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Your correct Kirk, the engine that you sold me from the parts 725 does not have a stop button on the points cover, BTW that engine is a 19D.
jkmustang1 Posted November 11, 2003 Posted November 11, 2003 Kirk You can put me on that save list please? Pm me your price for plow or if you know of any near here.
ka9bxg Posted November 12, 2003 Posted November 12, 2003 All of my model 19s have thae button on them along with all of the model 14s.That would make 8 model 19s and at least 5 14s and 2 model 9 all with the same cover.I think I have to many of them.Bob
thedaddycat Posted November 12, 2003 Author Posted November 12, 2003 Marty, using the table linked you can get it down to month and year. I'm using extrapolation and interpolation and the SWAG(Scientific Wild Oz Guess) method to more or less narrow it down to early/mid/late in the month. I'm still working out the details of what day, when in the shift, and who the assembler was, and if possible, did they just come off break.... LOL http://www.edgeta.org/mdate3.htm
thedaddycat Posted November 12, 2003 Author Posted November 12, 2003 I was looking over the B-12 today and noticed something that had escaped my attention earlier. Does this look like the OEM transport chain for a 990210 sickle bar mower to anyone else?? It sure looks like the one shown in my parts nmanual!!
DaleC Posted November 12, 2003 Posted November 12, 2003 Kirk, You did gooood. Yes that does look like the transport chain for a sickle mower. Nice Save.
dirtsaver Posted November 12, 2003 Posted November 12, 2003 Kirk thats a neat tractor. Good job on the saves. I'd never seen the sickle-bar hook so I've been to school today. Larry
KenK Posted November 12, 2003 Posted November 12, 2003 I've often wondered what they did with that chain when mowing?By the looks of that B-12 they must of threw it over the hood.:D
thedaddycat Posted November 12, 2003 Author Posted November 12, 2003 If you look at the first pic of the whole B-12 you can make it out hanging over the front axle. The hook was hooked in the opening for the oil fill and drain. I never even picked up on it until later,it was just sitting there waiting to be found....
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