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JR

Where to get A-C idler pulley?

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JR
Well, I finally got the B207/Homesteader going again, and since the rain has held off for a couple of days, I got it out and did some tilling with it. But I noticed a few times that the tractor and tiller would stop and apparently the main drive belt was slipping. If I raised the tiller a bit, the tractor and tiller would start going again. So I figured it must be time for a new belt. I also noticed that the clutch idler bearing felt a bit rough. This thing is a frankenstein machine now, but I decided that it was mostly Homesteader 8. So I went to the Simplicity site and found and downloaded the correct parts manual. I found the belt and idler part numbers, and proceeded to cross the numbers to the Simplicity ones on this site. I had no problem crossing the belt number, but the idler # doesn't cross. So, what can I do now? I could just run it until it dies, but that idea doesn't really appeal to me. Has anybody ever taken one of these riveted-together pulleys apart and replaced the bearing? TIA

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JR
I'd already thought of that, however the local dealer is more interested in maximizing profit than in customer service. And he is a big tractor dealer, and the Simplicity stuff is a sideline, so he pretty much has to order everything.

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In my parts manual the main idler pulley for the homesteader 7 is part# 1610191 which is NLA from Simplicity Transmission drive pulley part# 1606943 USE 1651566 Mower drive pulley part# NLA

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The back half of the tractor is from a Homesteader 8 (except for the fender and seat pan), so that is what I need the clutch idler for. The part number I found is 2026357, and the part x-over on this site does not show a cross to Simplicity for that number, and it appears that there is no Simplicity model that is a direct match to the Homesteader 8.

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JR
That may be what I wind up doing. It shouldn't be too big a deal to set it up in the mill and drill out the old rivets. I can then bolt it back together with some red loctite for safety. I did find a part number on the rubber seal of the bearing, so I may be able to use that to get another to replace it with. I think for now, I will just put it back on when I get the new belt, and I may use one of those grease needles to inject a bit of grease into the bearing. It still spins fairly freely, with just a slight roughness. In the mean time, I'll keep looking for the correct idler, or a new bearing for this one.

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You could also measure the diameter of the pulley and check out this site http://www.phoenix-mfg.com/ and see if it is available. Most any outdoor power equipment dealer could get you a pulley if you give them the diameter. If your local dealer doesn`t want to help there is always one out there that will.

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I think I'm going to call the local the local AC dealer, before I go any further. It may be possible that they can cross it to a Simplicity #, or may even be able to still get it, tho I doubt that. I'm a dealer for a small engine parts distributer, but I haven't found anything there that is like this. A v-idler won't work, but it's not exactly a flat idler either, because it has lips on the edges. I can find all kinds of 4" v idlers, as well as 4" flat idlers, but with this being a bit of a cross breed, I'm not having much luck. I'll take a look at that site too. Thanks!

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Simplicity has 4" idlers with lips on the edges I just bought one. The idler for the rear PTO Kit, the Idler on the Rear lift arm for the tiller, the clutch Idler on B series mid PTO clutch etc. 172930 4"

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I can find flat idlers with lips, but the lips on this are about a half inch or more tall. The ones I've found so far only have lips about a quarter inch high. I don't know if a smaller lip will allow the belt to stay on when I push the clutch. Wouldn't be a problem if there was a guide there, but there isn't. I guess I could make one if I had to, but ti would probably be easier to replace the bearing in the existing idler. How tall is the lip on the idler you just got?

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An idler is an idler. Some of the older flat ones have been replaced with the newer style with the lips. I have seen both styles on same model tractor. I just replaced one that was flat and new one has the lips. I wouldn't think that the higth of the lips would have any effect on performance. Idlers are used to take up slack ie clutch or change belt direction or to provide clearence.

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JR I just got my hands on a Simplicity to Allis Chalmers & Allis Chalmers to Simplicity parts cross reference manual. (Thanks Ken/Nighteye) This 1978 manual is 124 pages of nothing but numbers Allis Chalmer's part# 2026357 crosses to Simplicity part# 108386 PULLEY-IDLER 03. MSRP $14.54. This was used on as far as I can find 85 different MFG#'s The latest being a 48" mower deck My info shows it still available.

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