Help...This can't be good

[wantedinct]

Well i hopped on the 2210 this afternoon, i figured since it was nice out, i'd get a little done fillin in that hole i got, well i started pushing some dirt over,i stopped, put it in reverse, and didnt move, tried 1st,2nd.& 3rd, nothing, but you can feel it going in if you know what i mean, i checked the belt, its there, there's no strange sounds comeing from it, it just wont move. anyone have any ideas?

[rokon2813]

I'd check setscrews, make sure shafts are turning, not just the pulley spinning on the shaft, then check to see if your axle tube is cracked. [:0] Also check to see if axle has shifted to the right, disengaging the differential. To do this, jack both wheels off the ground, push in right wheel to be sure it is fulley engaged in differential, then check set collar on left side axle to be sure it is fully against the rear end housing.

[wantedinct]

Well i got it in the garage, all the shafts are turning, i jacked the back off the ground, i pushed the right side wheel, it didnt move, when i spin the right side wheel, its smooth, when i spin the left there's a clicking sound. also, it looks like the right side axle tube has a hair line crack in it. anyone in Conn. have a rear for sale?

[ReedS]

Yup have a complete in the garage Not quite in Ct but close PM me if your interested

[wantedinct]

Went back out to the garage, if i start it and put it in gear, with the rear end jacked up, the axle tube spins, could i have blown that right hub, the one with the gears in it?

[rokon2813]

Its possible, but I doubt it. The cracked axle tube is most likely the problem, and even if its not, you fix something else, and the cracked tube will not last. If its cracked where you can see it, its probably broke in the differential (that hub with the gears in it) where you can't see it. That outside tube is what spins the diff, which in turn spins the inner axle to the opposite wheel. All that is on the end where you can't see is a keyway. Where the tube is cut for the key it is very thin. Thats a basic description, but hopefully you get the idea.

[oldone]

Check the pins in hub that hold the gear in place. I sheared the ones in mine. the plain bearing will hold it together so the pins look good if you look at it.

[HubbardRA]

If you don't find any of the above things wrong, then check the key that holds the gear onto the left axle inside the diff. I sheared one of those once.

[callwill]

In my case, i sheared the keys that fix the drive gear to the axle on my b10 & on my 3212H the same gear had all the teeth worn or sheared to the point of not being driven. The result was the axle tube would spin while i was going nowhere fast!

[wantedinct]

Oldone hit the nail right on the head, thats what happend. Well that's going to be the 3rd hub that i've replaced, Im going to assume that the hub is the weak point in the rear, anyone else have this problem?

[HubbardRA]

If you would like, you can replace that type diff with the later model limited slip diff. The later models has the left wheel flange welded onto the axle. The right hub was also furnace brazed to the gear and there are no pins to break. You have to replace both the diff and axle. I have one from an AC716 in my 61 Wards (Simp 700). It is a direct bolt in.

[rokon2813]

I think I would still be concerned with the cracked tube. Especially if you push dirt with it. If time, money, or parts is a concern, a cheap temporary fix is to put 2 or 3 small muffler clamps around the tube, just so it cant expand as easily. I think they are 1 5/8 but not positive. Hate to see you end up like this:

This one broke bad enough to take out the case. [:0]

[wantedinct]

Ya, i think your right ! how about welding another pipe over the tube? is there a seal in it were it go's into the hub?

[oldone]

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Originally posted by wantedinct
Oldone hit the nail right on the head, thats what happend. Well that's going to be the 3rd hub that i've replaced, Im going to assume that the hub is the weak point in the rear, anyone else have this problem?

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I had the same thing happen to me! pushing dirt, backed up then it would not go forward. I took mine apart 3 times before I found the problem. I got the pins out then clamped it together, and drilled and tapped the holes for 5/16"-18 thread. put a bolt in each one as I drilled and tapped it. then cut the head off the bolt. John