briggs engine help

[rick9044]

i have a briggs engine 300421-0127-01-7001211 that needs overhauled or a short block for it or what kind of engine can i relace it with. the engine goes on an allis H B 212 tractor with hydro-stat drive i really like this tractor. it seems if the engine is bad , so is the whole tractor...i checked the local mower shops every one seems deaf, dumb and blind......WHAT CAN I DO????.....THANKS FOR YOUR TIME RICK

[thedaddycat]

You have many options including rebuilding the engine or replacing it with another. I believe most of the cast iron Briggs singles up to 16 horse will bolt right in...

[D-17_Dave]

Welcome to the club Rick. You won't be sorry for getting a 16 Briggs to replace the 12. It'll make a rocket out of the HB212. I know, I got ne too. You almost won't believe the power increase. You can this for about the same money as rebuilding your 12. Before you decide however, take a look around at some of the other ideas and swaps going on. You'll get a good idea of what's good, not good, and out of the relm of reason.

[Scotmo]

Rick I see you are in Indiana. I have 2 Simp 6216's that have the 16 hp motor you are looking for. The tractors are in Oxford Ohio. I need to get rid of them as I have moved. If you can take both tractors I will give them to you. One has wheel weights and a 42 in deck. The other has a dozer blade. Both are in need of repair but nothing major. Let me know and welcome to the club.

[BigSix]

Wow--Scotmo--that's a very generous offer--got any friends in NYS? LOL! Just kidding. I think you just made somebody's day, however.

[RayS]

Scot, I thought that the 6216`s were vertical shaft engines. He needs a horizontial shaft engine for a HB 212.

[UCD]

Rick The 16hp engine in the 6216 (small frame tractor) is a vertical shaft (|) engine. The engine in the HB-212 (large frame tractor) is a horizontal shaft (-) engine. The engine in the 6216 will not work in the HB-212

[Wishin2BMowin]

What's up with the engine? Is it knocking? Smoking? Oil gushing out? Or is it just not running correctly? Those Cast Iron B&S engines are pretty tough and fairly easy to re-build. Give us more info maybe we could help...

[MarkM1958]

DARN,,, I was all excited till I read UDC's post about it being vertical shafted. :I Good luck looking, and welcome to the party RICK,,, :D 8D

[Scotmo]

Oh Well. I tried. I had no idea there was a differance in the shafts. Mine are definately vertical.

[skot71]

Does anyone know if the engine out of a 6216 would bolt up in my B-208? I may be looking for an engine.

[rick9044]

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Originally posted by Wishin2BMowin
What's up with the engine? Is it knocking? Smoking? Oil gushing out? Or is it just not running correctly? Those Cast Iron B&S engines are pretty tough and fairly easy to re-build. Give us more info maybe we could help...

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hello wishin....thanks for the reply....naw the engine is not knocking ,,smokes a little and has very little compression...the thing is i drive a truck for a living and just dont have the time for rebuilding the engine and the knowledge...i spoke with a man at the local mower shop and i could tell they had no interest in rebuilding it for verious reasons....what if it needs bored...had no idea where to take it and etc..but he had a nice new deal on a new mower....if i go with a 16 horse, is possible to get one with a front shaft to run the snow blower...thanks for your time and get that mowing done with fun.........rick

[MikeES]

Around here in northern Wisconsin most car engine shops will rebuild that Briggs for you. Typically a rebore, new piston, new rings, valve job, and crank reground, for a 12hp cast iron Briggs should run about $500. Less if you don't need any crankshaft work.