keifer2k3 0 Posted June 19, 2005 The good news is I thought the motor on my 6116 was locked up. It was kinda. When I took the shrouds off I found the gear on the starter had gotten chewed up and was wedged in the fly wheel. I popped it out and no more locked up engine. Now I just need a starter. Oh ya and an engine rebuild on the Kohler in my 7114H that I bought off Ebay... that was supposed to have hardly smoked and burnt very little oil. I think he said 1/4 pint every 4 mows. He must have one of them 24" lawns;) Looks like I'll be mowing with the 4208 for a while. (assuming it rains sometime). And just think... my wife did'nt believe me when I told her we needed 3 tractors :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 717 Posted June 20, 2005 For your 6116, if it is a Briggs engine, all you need is the stater ger kit. Not an un common problem and easy to fix. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bud119195 119 Posted June 20, 2005 Starter gears for briggs are only $5-10 I bought a broadmoor once that the older fella said motor was locked up and I found the same thing. Changed the starter gear and it Has run great since. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keifer2k3 0 Posted June 20, 2005 Ya I was hoping that might be the case. Like the fool I can be sometimes though, I took the two screws out because I could'nt figure out how to get the top plastic cap off. Seemed like it was pressed on. Well out fell the springs... (no laughing..) and I can't get them back in. I'm guessing there may be a tool for this. So unless anyone has a trick to share, I'm headed 20 miles or so to the nearest Simplicity shop with my starter in a box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keifer2k3 0 Posted June 20, 2005 I GOT IT!!!:D:D With four little peices of wire and the help of my wife's nimble fingers, I (we) got 'er back together! Now how do I change the gear. The drawing in the parts manual shows a screw going into the top of the assembly. Mine has a plastic cap with no screw. It has a dimple/button on top but appears to one piece constuction. I can't get it to screw off and i'm afraid to pull too hard and break it. Can anyone help? P.S. I had to show my wife what to do;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bud119195 119 Posted June 21, 2005 How old is the starter? The briggs manual i got shows a c-ring retainer or a roll pin if you have a c-ring push down on the top springs and pull clip .If you have roll pin push down on retainer and drive the pin out with a small punch . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keifer2k3 0 Posted June 21, 2005 I think the motors a '81 or '82. I'm the second owner so the starter might not be factory. I don't see any clips or pins...? Heres some pics I got the gear today and the instuctions show what I think your describing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 717 Posted June 21, 2005 That is an earliier style starter and that cap is just a protective piece and can worked off with two screw drivers. And then there will be a roll pin to tap out of the shaft. It looks like you also need the gear return spring as none is shown on the picture. You can still download a parts sheet and the exploded view of the starter should be shown. After all is put back together the palstic cap can be tapped back on with a socket that just fits the cap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keifer2k3 0 Posted June 21, 2005 Thanks Bob. I thought that may be the case. But I broke too many things prying at them when that wasn't the case...:) I'm just learning. I have the exploded view but I didn't notice the springs missing. Thanks again,very much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 717 Posted June 21, 2005 Here's where you get the parts book. http://shop.briggsandstratton.com/BShopProductPage.asp?CatalogID=56B2B9A7-283C-11D4-8886-00B0D0203414&MECID=100&SessionID=43C7B3A0-6A44-4EB2-B2CC-23B437198A68&CategoryID=0&lrid=1&ProductID=56B2BC3F-283C-11D4-8886-00B0D0203414 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
keifer2k3 0 Posted June 22, 2005 Thanks guys!! The 6116 is running. Went real smooth after getting the guts to pry that plastic cap off.. I always seem to get the part that the instuctions don't have the same picture for B). Two mowers ready to mow now just in case it rains8D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites