67 Landlord starting problems in Ohio

[imn2vws 0]

I have taken posession(free,saved her from the scrap pile at work)of a 1967 Landlord 2010, because the previous owner couldn't get it to start.He mowed with it up untill recently. It cranks over fine. I pulled the plug to check for fire, no fire. Where do I start? I looked at all the connections, they look to all be intact.I really want to restore this baby, but would like to see how sound the motor is.I will also need some help finding good sources for seat cover, decals etc. Any help would be greatly appreciated, Thanks Danny

[RayS 79]

Start with the points and condesor. 9 times out of 10 that is the problem with no spark.

[imn2vws 0]

Where are they located?

[RayS 79]

Right in front of the carb and below the muffler there is a little cover. They are in there they more than likely need cleaned or replaced I would start there. Set gap at .020 .

[goatfarmer 817]

That engine "should" have a external points box. It's located in the vicinity of the carb,behind,and underneath it.Small rectangular box,with 2 screws that hold it to the block. Very easy to access,and service the points/condenser.

[ReedS 5]

Check points first, make sure that they're opening and closing like they should and that the gap is properly set(should be .020 if memory serves). If you disconnect the condensor and the engine runs replace the condensor. Also check for sheared flywheel key which can cause a no spark condition. Lastly if everything else is ok another common no spark cause is a bad coil which is under the engine shroud (requires near engine removal for access to bolts but you'll be almost there if you check the flywheel key). Alternatively a battery powered external coil ignition system can be installed if the coil is bad and you don't want to pull the engine. Good luck.

[imn2vws 0]

That looks easy enough. I will check it tomorrow.I'll let you know what happens. Thanks.

[AC808 0]

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[comet66 0]

Welcome Danny, along with the points, I think I'd replace the spark plug before going any deeper. They have been known to fail.

[imn2vws 0]

It has a new plug. I took the points cover off today and cranked the motor over. The points only sparked about one out of four times that they opened and closed. I replaced the points and condenser and now I'm not getting any spark anywhere. Is the coil my next thing to check or replace? Again thanks allot guys, Danny Mason To answer the one guys question... I have all aircooled stuff, all of these run except for the dunebuggy 68 Beetle 69 squareback 80 railbuggy (me and my dads) 91 railbuggy dunebuggy

[RayS 79]

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Originally posted by imn2vws
It has a new plug. I took the points cover off today and cranked the motor over. The points only sparked about one out of four times that they opened and closed. I replaced the points and condenser and now I'm not getting any spark anywhere.

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I would still think that it is the gap since you stated there was spark 1 out of 4 times that they opened and the only thing that you have done is replace the points and condensor.

[imn2vws 0]

You think I should double check my points gap? I set them at .20 . Yea it didn't make sense that I had a little bit of spark at the points prior to changing the points. Danny

[firefoxz1 4]

A good condenser should eliminate the spark you see at the points thus making them last longer. No spark here is actually a good thing. See if you now have spark at the plug, if not then I would check the coil.

[dirtsaver 1]

Hello Danny. Did you clean the flywheel and coil mating surfaces? I've seen a lot of these old tractors that have rust on the flywheel and will not get proper fire till they are cleaned. Also check the coil to flywheel air gap at the magnet. It should be ten to twelve thousands. By the way,how far are you from Cincy? I'm about halfway between Cincy and Louisville if you need parts or help give a shout and I'd be happy to do what I can.

[MrSteele 483]

Something to check on an old engine, especially one that has been setting up is oil between the points. I see that you have changed the points, but, did you perhaps have oily fingers, or drip enough oil onto the points to cause a problem? Clean the point surfaces with clean sandpaper, some use emery cloth, or a good spray carb cleaner to remove any trace of oil, then check for a spark again. Likely, the peg that operates the points is in a very worn fitting, that allows oil to pump into the points. I found a 65 Landlord with that problem, as well as many other Briggs engines. If you still have no spark, clean the rust and debris off the flywheel at the magnet, check also the space between the flywheel and magneto. I normally use a business card for this spacing. Always works for me, anyway. If there is still no fire, the mag is about all that is left.

[imn2vws 0]

Thanks for all your advice!! I started it today. I pulled the motor out, cleaned the magnetic pickup on the flywheel. I cleaned a bunch of black crap off the magneto surfaces near the flywheel. I readjusted the points and reinstalled the motor amd she started right up!!! Again thanks allot. Danny