denver Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 hello new to this board anr to older tractors, i have a allis 620 i was having some problems with so i took it to a simplicity shop in april i still have not gotten it back they said something went wrong with the hydralic switch back in sept and they are still waiting on one that they can't find parts for it????????? i am in canton,ohio are they that hard to find parts for? DENVER
JP Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 Hi Ya Denver! Welcome to the club! Hmmm, What's the part #? A Hydraulic switch? I'm in SE MI & Have Family in your area (I was in Chagrin Falls last weekend!) Glad to help, need more info..... JP
denver Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 quote:Originally posted by JP Hi Ya Denver! Welcome to the club! Hmmm, What's the part #? A Hydraulic switch? I'm in SE MI & Have Family in your area (I was in Chagrin Falls last weekend!) Glad to help, need more info..... JP THANKS JP THEY SAY IT IS THE CONTROL VALVE YO MOVE THE DECK AND PLOW UP AND DOWN
Ronald Hribar Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 JP is one of the resident "experts" on the PowRmax family. 616,620 720 and 4040,4041 and 9020. You have come to the right place to get advice and parts.
Wishin2BMowin Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 If it's just the Hydro lift having issues I'll bet it's not the control valve. It's most likely the "O Ring" on the piston in the push/pull cylinder. Just my two cents... Best of luck...
Ronald Hribar Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 What problems were you having when you took it into shop for repairs? Surely they did not take from April to Sept to find something wrong with lift system? I sent you an e-mail with a valve on E-Bay. I think it is high priced. If that is truly all that is wrong I may have a spare one.
denver Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 exaust gasket,points condensor,check hyd system mower deck belt tensioner was bad and sharpen blades,have had talk with shop on several times always say waiting on parts the valve they tell me i need is a #171949 or parts to fix mine #2174140 #174138 #174142 dual valve for 2 knobs ????????????
JP Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 Hmmm.... Well, I can't seem to find 171949. YOU need to get to a 'Bearing house' to match up the Orings. Is the sping broken? Dave Hutchins has had good luck making sure the quick change work (freely). I would tend to agree! The belt tensioner needs to come off every now & again to be serviced (grease the pivot bearing). Any other hydraulic issues? When was the last fluid/filter change on it??
Ronald Hribar Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 I'm pretty sure I have a John Deere valve . Are they the same?
Ronald Hribar Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 #174138 is two springs 174142 is 2 washers .046 174140 is 4 o-rings # 171494 is complete unit
denver Posted December 8, 2005 Author Posted December 8, 2005 is there any way to get these parts or whole unit
JP Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 YOU need to get to a 'Bearing house' to match up the Orings. 8-)
D-17_Dave Posted December 8, 2005 Posted December 8, 2005 You can match up the O-rings at a bearing supply or hydraulic supply house. I'm a little confused (as others are) about what your real problem is. It seems to be painfully obvious that the shop isn't trying to repair it or unaware of the full dealer network and how to find the correct parts. They simply may not have an older mechanic who's familiar with this machine. This being said, if you do have some problems w/ the machine that they cannot resolve. Go pick it up so someone else more qualified can have a crack at it. I wouldn't have any problem paying for replacement parts, but I'd have serious issues with them sticking you with a high labor bill considering the amount of time they've had it and still not completed the repair. If you have a problem in the valve, such as the centering spring, and washer, and some O-roings, all these can be swapped out of a good valve. I dought you have both spools in the valve bad, so the problem most likely has damage on the spool most used. Ie the one for the rear/deck lift. Anyway, these parts are the same on the single spool valves found on the early 616/4040 powermaxes, and the spring and washer should/could be the same off of the lift valves from any of the 700/7000-900/9000 series tractors w/ hydro lift. Bottom line is the parts even used, can be found. I have a single spool lift valve extra. You can change most anything on these tractors even if your not a master mechanic. With the help from this sight and a little problem solveing, I'm sure we can help you with anything you might need. PM me if I can help, or e-mail me.
JP Posted December 9, 2005 Posted December 9, 2005 Yeah.. Yeah! Dat's da ticket! LOL No, Really.... Dave is right on!! Drop any of us a PM or email & let's get you going! We got 7" last night! You must've gotten MORE! (I used to live in Brecksville....) Get that MAX Goin'!!! JP
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