Missing Solenoid?

[MrSteele 483]

I took the engine out of my Landlord over the weekend for the promised rebuild, actually, I finally got tired of buying oil by the case to work a few hours now and then. Something was nagging me about the electrical system, and I was wondering if anyone else has used the starter/generator without a solenoid? Mine works, yet there is no sign of a solenoid in the system, period! The regulator is where it belongs, the switch is in place and works, the push button is used to start the engine, but the solenoid is non-existant. I am still using the three year old battery from AutoZone, and it starts, charges, does everything it is supposed to do without the solenoid. I could easily put one in the system, but, why?

[BLT 717]

Which Landlord? Some had starter buttons whose contacts would take the amperage without the help of relays (solenoids)

[ReedS 5]

The early models did not use a relay, not until the key switch models did the need for a relay become a nescessity. In the early models the push button switch serves as the high current switch, in the later models the key switch is the low current switch that activates the high currrent switch (relay). If you wanted to put a relay in you'd also need to install a low current activating circuit. IMO totaly not needed with the high current push button It's a simple system on a simple tractor. I'm a believer in not fixing anything that isn't broken.

[MrSteele 483]

It is a 65 model, and I am like you. It works, so I ain't going to change it! I was just wondering, though. The key switch is simple on and off, with no starter position. I have seen many older 6 volt trucks and cars with the same setup, but have not done a lot with the starter/generator systems.

[D-17_Dave 12]

The simple key switch you mentioned is only a kill switch for the ign. The push button takes the place of the solinoid. All the round hooded tractors had the push button. The early 110's had a push button, late model 110's/112's started with a key/sol. starting system.

[HubbardRA 19]

Believe it or not, someone had actually hooked up one of the older type push button starter switches on the 7116H that I got. They did a really good job, because it looks factory. Took me a little while to figure that one out. That tractor had really been boogered up, when I finally got to looking at it. Parking brake removed (completely), electric lift replaced with manual, holes drilled in wierd places, notches cut out of frame, etc.