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Cant seem to find any Simplicity or AC tractors to monkey with so I got this running today. Just need to attach the chain gaurd and replace the belt... [img]http://a1.cpimg.com/image/AD/C3/56827821-5fee-01E20188-.jpg[/img] Picked it up at a auction a couple of weeks ago for $70. Straightened up and welded on the front Guards some , repainted them. Then swapped in used a magnatron coil and a better used recoil clutch and its back in service again. I'm going to try and put this to use around here, but I have a nasty habit of selling themB);) Besides..I wanted to try loading pictures with DSL:D
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DSL, huh? How did it work for you? Nice machine there, but it looks like it'd give you a real workout in tall weeds, since it doesn't look to be self-propelled...
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DSL, huh? How did it work for you?
Switched from dial up to DSL Friday . Whole lot faster, but I have to actually shut the computer off now when I'm done. Used to be able to just disconnect the modem and put it to sleep.
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Nice machine there, but it looks like it'd give you a real workout in tall weeds, since it doesn't look to be self-propelled...
This thing sure does have Self Propell. The White lever on the left handlebar drives it. These are nice mowers, better than Roof Mowrs, but I like the Roof Handlebars better as you can adjust them up or down. I'm just a little too tall for these handles in their fixed position.
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Originally posted by SmilinSam [br This thing sure does have Self Propell. The White lever on the left handlebar drives it. These are nice mowers, better than Roof Mowrs, but I like the Roof Handlebars better as you can adjust them up or down. I'm just a little too tall for these handles in their fixed position.
My bad... I didn't see that. I really need something like that for a trim mower, since all my trimming is on STEEEP slopes. Now I'm manhandling a Snapper self-propelled...
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They make 2 sprokets for those units, the 12 tooth is like running speed, the 7 0r 9 tooth is standard cant remenber witch it is. Its still perty fast.
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My grand-dad bought one of those years ago. If I remember right he cut away some more of the front deck above the blade so he could take a bigger bite of brush when he walked through. He still has it tucked awy somewhere in his shed but I haven't seen it run for years. I'll have to see what I can trade him for it as he's getting to along in years ti manhandle stuff like this. But the way he used to work it it's lucky to still be around.
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These have been made since the 1950's. Alot of the older ones have little to nothing for guards and have Wisconsin 7 hp engines with Mags on them. This one is a 1982 model 800. They still make these in both High Wheel like this one, and low wheel models called "Whippers" that are sold in the farm stores like Farm N Fleet. The Whippers run around $1200.00 with tax. The High Wheel ones like mine now sell for close to $2000.00 with a choice of 3 different engines. All the new ones have a ton of safety equipment. they have blade clutches, shut-off switches, and a larger hooded guard over the blade like the DR field and Brush mowers have. In fact the first DR. Field units were actually Whipper models. Now DR Field is their own design using Vertical shaft engines. The newer stuff also has the blade engagement lever extended back to the handlebars, a modifacation I plan to make to this one. I'm also going to replace the front skid with a older one that is in the form of a completely closed loop rather than a open end design like this one. There's to much bounce to this one while running along and you keep dipping the blade into the dirt. I'd also prefer one of the newer hooded guards, but that requires alot of money or alot of welding and fabrication. Reason I like them is they dont throw debris around as bad as these types.
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I picked up one similar to that for free from a lawn mower dealer. It was missing the engine,transmission and was in rough shape too boot so it wasn't that great of a deal. It has more shrouding over the blade than yours. removed the cutting mechanism and made an adapter for one of my simplicity walkbehinds.

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Hey I did it, I got the picture to show, lol. I've been having problems getting to work lately so I quit trying. But had to show off my modification, even though it's kind of a hack job. It cuts real good, only problem is I have 3.5HP engine on that walkbehind so it's underpowered. At least it won't be throwing rocks and debris all over the place.
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Originally posted by SmilinSam [br This thing sure does have Self Propell. The White lever on the left handlebar drives it. These are nice mowers, better than Roof Mowrs, but I like the Roof Handlebars better as you can adjust them up or down. I'm just a little too tall for these handles in their fixed position.
My bad... I didn't see that. I really need something like that for a trim mower, since all my trimming is on STEEEP slopes. Now I'm manhandling a Snapper self-propelled...
Here ya go, Kent! A little closer to Sam though. http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Brush-mower_W0QQitemZ7754519851QQcategoryZ50377QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Pat
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This one is ALOT newer and quite a bit closer to Kent....in PA [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/Bachtold-High-Weeds-Wheel-Walk-Behind-Mower-No-Reserve_W0QQitemZ7753919582QQcategoryZ71272QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url] [img]http://i24.ebayimg.com/04/i/06/a4/29/e5_2.JPG[/img] Or in CT.... [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/Dr-Field-and-Brush-Mower_W0QQitemZ7752879313QQcategoryZ71272QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem[/url] [img]http://i3.ebayimg.com/05/i/06/9f/d7/7e_2.JPG[/img] Better hurry on it though, auction is about over..
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Bocktold made right here in Centeral Illinois, going throught hard time. I think I read some where there in a big law suit. Some guy had it running but the blade was shut off. He picked up the front blade section and pulled it till the blade ingaged.
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I had one of the ones for the simplicity walker I am sorry that I gave it away .It used blades of a sickle mower looked like it would cut you up real bad .Wish I still had it just for looks I do have the brush saw for the walker but that thing is really bad for saftey.Bob
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Think a lot of these older machines are perfectly safe to use myself, you just need to use 1950 -1960's dose of what was common sence back then. Pulling them forward by the blade you would have been looked upon as a dang fool in need of gentic cleansing.
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They have to make these things safe for the people with the lowest common sense. So they need all the safety crap that keeps acting up so the things won't start or run then people throw them away and I pick them up and cut all that crap off and bypass it then run it a long time after that, lol.
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This is typical of so many things in out politicly correct life now. It's the dumbing down of the world, going to the largest common denominator. I don't want to hijack this thread but it does show what happens when dumb people are allowed to play with dangerous things.
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I agree with Dave 100%. If HALF the people who buy these items would READ THE DIRECTIONS and FOLLOW THEM, there wouldnt BE any seat, gear, pto, or fart switches to shut everything off. :-D IMHO!!!
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I have seen these mowers before myself and wondered how they worked, My brother thought of buying something like this to cut down the briar when he cut wood...
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Originally posted by SmilinSam I'm just a little too tall for these handles in their fixed position.
That's because the walk behind stuff is designed for use by Women:D:D88
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My two cents worth.. That mower reminds me of an old Yazoo I used when I was a kid. Forget self propelled, the propulsion system was a pair of growing legs attached to a young man/boy who ate everything in sight, and had dibs on most things coming out of a good cook's oven! The Yazoo had a 4HP horizontal cast iron Clinton, that started on the second pull, or fortieth pull, depending on whether you flooded it or not on the first pull. It had a 25" cut, and the deck had an opening on the top so you could see the blade turning. Actually, there was basically no deck in front of the blade mandrel! My Dad "improved" it with a sheet of aluminum placed under the deck, but, that ruined the balance of the mower, and I never used it again. Safety is thrust upon us, whether we like it or not, and the fun part of safety is figuring out how to remove all the safety switches and still have an operating system! That mower you have would likely be improved by adding pneumatic tires in place of what appears to be semipneumatic. The hard tires just don't 'push' as well as true pneumatic tires. Of course, they have fewer flats, but... A flat tire is sometimes a good excuse to do something else besides cut the grass, like work on a recent new toy! US folks down here in Alabama don't see such toys anymore, but that mower looks like it would be a decent replacement for any Yazoo in heavy brush or tall sage.
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