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I have the opportunity to trade my 3416H (vickers read end) in for a gear 7016. The shop reports the 7016 is in good shape. But thinks it is the same vintage as my 3416H. I currently use by 3416 with a Johnny Bucket, grader blade, and plowing snow. I made switch and use it to blow snow, but generally use by 7012H to blow snow. My 3416 does have trouble backing up hill. The vickers is a little weak and does leak a little. But other than that it is in good shape. Given my use, what is your feeling on using a gear tractor with a bucket, grader blade, and plowing or blowing snow. thanks Rick............
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I personally like using a gear tractor for pushing snow. But if I had to choose between the two, I wouldn`t get rid of my hydro.
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Let me give you the whole picture. I currently own a 3416H (vickers) and a 7012H. I have a 42 inch blower, a 42 inch plow, a 46 inch plow, a grader blade, a johnny bucket, and a 48 inch deck. I use the 7012 for blowing and cutting grass. The 3416H gets the rest of the tools. I have a chance to trade one of the tractors for a 7016. The 7016 is a gear tractor. If I do the trade I would be trading the 3416H in. As I stated abouve the vickers is a little weak and it has the usual leak. Given that will I be happy with a gear tractor for pushing snow, dirt, grading dirt, and moving dirt with the bucket? Assuming I do the trade I would end up with a 7016 (gear) and a 7012H. My 7012H is the newer of my two tractors and thus don't plan of getting rid of it. I hope this helps. Rick..........
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Well since your 7012 is a hydro, you proably aren`t going wrong trading for the 7016. The vickers will only get worse in time. I know that they can be rebushed but have also heard of them still leaking after they were fixed. They put a bushing in the case but the pintleshaft still has to have some where on it.
maxtorman1234
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Personally, I'd keep the 3416H. But i dont really know much about the tractor, if your lucky it is just a simple linkage adjustment problem causing your reverse problem , like my 416 had. I like the hydro better for everything, you can go slower that a normal 3 speed, and faster when needed. No time is wasted shifting gears, and yoy have more control, if you start up a hill and then realize you need to slow down, its better to be driving a hydrostatic. I would personally keep the tractor you have now, as for the leak, i'd try getting it rebushed, as the vickers are smooth and work real good as well. THats just my opinion,
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I know hydros take more power to run, so if you used the 3416H alot in snow and wanted to trade, I would switch engines around from the 7016 to the 7012, Then you would have a hydro for snow with plenty of power to blow snow. Although you might want to keep them original. I know a 12 will pull a 36 blower and 42 blower, but it dogs down alot in the heavy snow, my 16 horse keeps right up with it pretty easily. I would prefer a gear tractor for plowing and pulling/pushing heavy things though, but for blowing snow the hydro wins in my book. Gear tractors will pull more for a longer amount of time. I pulled my Grandpas D-15 series 2 in from our churches cemetary when the water pump went out. My 1920 pulled it about 2 miles, but it struggled abit. Its a good thing I had Amsoil in it because I couldn't even touch the hydro casing because it was so hot!![:0][:0] The gear tractor wouldn't have that problem. If I were you I would trade, you would have good gear tractor and a good hydro tractor too. Hope this helps!
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IMO, the hydro is far superior to a gear for blowing snow because you can use the infinite speed control to keep the "intake hopper" full of snow -- which is essential to prevent clogging in wet, heavy snow. In wet stuff I run as fast as the machine will handle it... Unless you're pulling a moldboard plow (or perhaps with a tiller, tilling deep) I think the hydro is better than the gear for everything I've done with my tractors... IMO, you'd be trading usability for perhaps better reliability...
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I like gear drive for everything besides mowing. A hydro is the way to go for mowing. I really like using the gear tractors with my 46" blade but I don't push much snow, usually dirt or gravel. The gear is better in the garden, especially the hi-lo six speeds. and one reason I prefer the gear is that I can use my clutch more and have my hands free to steer, and lift attachments, I think Al said that using the clutch/brake on a hydro is bad for it, you need to slow to a stop with the speed lever.
Ronald Hribar
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I like the Hydro all the time. But in my car and truck I have manual transmission New Honda Pilot is first vehicle in a long time with Auto. I belive I can do slower tilling, when mowing cn speed up slow down and reverse much easier. Same with the snow blower. can match speed to job, motor can stay at full power. Ihave JD 212 with variable and when using tiller I can not get used to clutching and braking to maintain uniform forward speed.
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first tractor was geared and worked fine for every thing except snow blowing. got a hydo about 23 years ago now don't want to use anything else
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Why trade add it to the fleet!!!
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