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GWGAllisfan
Did Simplicity or Allis ever make tractors with a seat mounted on springs? One thing I've noticed is the ride on newer tractors is less rough. I'd like to try to adapt something to the 712S and maybe the B-10, if I can. Any ideas or pictures?

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gregc
I converted the seat on my 494cc to one from a 16GTH. It flips up, is spring mounted and adjustable forward and back by pulling a release lever under the front of the seat. [img]http://www.simpletractors.com/club2/uploaded/gregc/494ccJB2.jpg[/img] Here's a manual showing the parts on page 42: http://www.simplicitytechpubs.com/6767PRINT/PDF_files/TP_400_1183_03_LL_SMA.pdf

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HubbardRA
Greg, If you bring that one to Spring Fling, I won't have to pass are because you were holding up the parade. My tractor was idling faster in high gear than that tractor Matt loaned you would run at WOT.;):D:D:D Oh excuse me, I just realized that it may have been the fact that I was driving an RBT while the tractor Matt loaned you was a tired old FDT. I guess I shouldn't have said anything out of respect for the elderly tractors.}:)

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Kent
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Originally posted by HubbardRA
Greg, If you bring that one to Spring Fling, I won't have to pass are because you were holding up the parade. My tractor was idling faster in high gear than that tractor Matt loaned you would run at WOT.;):D:D:D Oh excuse me, I just realized that it may have been the fact that I was driving an RBT while the tractor Matt loaned you was a tired old FDT. I guess I shouldn't have said anything out of respect for the elderly tractors.}:)
Well, I guess it depends on whether you looking for speed or torque to get work done? ;) I had a 10" rear pulley on my FDT 2012 with loader, and in low gear you could likely crawl faster than it would run at wide-open throttle. However, it had so much torque that up against some "immovable object" it would sit and dig a hole in the ground at idle, spinning those deep-lug Chin Shens I had on it... I used it in second gear all the time, so it was a fast shift from forward to reverse using the loader. In 3rd gear at WOT it wouldn't go faster than a fast walk... So much torque that I eventually snapped an axle tube... :( But, you could so some serious work with a little machine! [img]http://www.simpletractors.com/club2//attach/Kent/rocks_4.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.simpletractors.com/club2//attach/Kent/rocks_1.jpg[/img]

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dirtsaver
Randy just remember that adding springs will increase the seat height,which in turn increases the distance your butt is from the tractor. That's another thing I like about the old "round hood" tractors,those neat flared fenders that give you the feel of being on a big tractor, although I admit the ride is a bit rough but I can't tell that much difference between the sprung seat on the 17GTH and the B's or 3012V. Kent was the 2012 a straight three speed or did it have the hi-lo option on it? I'm debating on wether to go with an 8" or 10" final drive on the B-10/16 for the heavy chores. Either way, I know the original drive is too fast for tilling but I don't want to drop the speed too low for plowing and cultivating or push blade work.

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Kent
The 2012 was a straight 3-speed. After I broke the axle tube, I mounted the loader on my "repainted/refreshed -- can't call it restored" Big Ten that did have a High-Low on it. Having experimented, I don't recommend the High-Low for loader work -- I just don't think it's strong enough. For other things where you're not using brute force pushing, it works fine. I had a 10" (because that's what I had - a brand new one in the box) speed reduction pulley on it. Those were available for the old 725/B-1 HP machines. I'd recommend the 8" for 10HP or bigger machines. That'll slow it down all you need for plowing or tilling, yet still be fast enough for other uses.

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HubbardRA
OK,I have to admit that I was driving a shuttle tranny in 4th with 26x12x12 tires on the rear. I checked it beside Andy's 7790 hydro when Brandon decided to pass me, and mine was just slightly faster than the hydro with the smaller tires. It is still a stump puller in first, and I mow in third with it. Guess the leader of the FDT cult just can't take a joke. [:0] Sorry Kent.:D

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Kent
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Rod, I guess the reason the early tractors didn't have running boards was because every once in a while you have to use the Fred Flintstone maneuver to help them along.;):D:D
Don't laugh. I've done that several times on snow/ice... sure beats the alternatives of going to find someone else to pull you out of your predicament, or getting off and pushing... I'd much rather be self-sufficent and work from the seat! :D

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gregc
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Rod, I guess the reason the early tractors didn't have running boards was because every once in a while you have to use the Fred Flintstone maneuver to help them along.;):D:D
Don't laugh. I've done that several times on snow/ice... sure beats the alternatives of going to find someone else to pull you out of your predicament, or getting off and pushing... I'd much rather be self-sufficent and work from the seat! :D
Just funnin' Kent. I've got FDTs and RBTs in both small and large frame and enjoy them all. Just a little more partial to the LFRBTs.:)

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