watson6 Posted June 14, 2006 Posted June 14, 2006 I have a '68 AC b208, The tranny like to pop out of 1st and reverse, and lately when I am in neutral it still goes. It feels like first gear... I have had this tractor for 5 years with no real problems. I was wondering if parts are still available and any idea of the problem. Does any one have any diagrams of the rear end spilt. Thanks hope to get back out in the yard soon...
Chris727 Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 The transmission should be a peerless. I would think parts are available. You will need a parts list, and probably the B-Series service manual.
goatfarmer Posted June 15, 2006 Posted June 15, 2006 Is that trans similar to a Broadmoor? I've got a Broadmoor 2 speed I think,you're more than welcome to have.
firefoxz1 Posted June 16, 2006 Posted June 16, 2006 I am picking up a 728 parts mower I won, this week end. I believe it has the same rear so if you are in need of one let me know.
tanman722001 Posted June 16, 2006 Posted June 16, 2006 The B208 trans is different then any Simplicity Broadmoor trans.As far as part available i dont think there is any available.Hope this helps Tony
Ketchamized Posted June 17, 2006 Posted June 17, 2006 I have an AC B-210 which is the sister tractor to the Simplicity 3210v Landlord. I have the vari-shift transmission... I'm in dire need for the vari-shift lever as well as the front drive pulley. If any of you guys have an extra one, I'd be more than happy to pay a fair price for it.
RayS Posted June 17, 2006 Posted June 17, 2006 Erick, want adds should be placed in the classifieds as well.
Ketchamized Posted June 17, 2006 Posted June 17, 2006 Ray, I posted a message on the want ads, but I have not gotten any responses. I just noticed that some guys were offering transmissions to others on this thread. I figured, since I didn't get any responses from the want ads, that maybe people don't look there as much... And since the topic came up anyway, I might as well offer to buy some transmission related parts that I very much need, since there were guys willing to just give a whole transmission away. I sincerely didn't mean anything by it, and I apologize. I really very much appreciate this website and everything it has to offer, as well as the people on it. :o) Best Regards, Erick p.s. I appreciate your private message. Thanks. :o)
firefoxz1 Posted June 18, 2006 Posted June 18, 2006 Erick, I think I might have done the same thing you did, so I quess I would have been wrong too. I am not familiar with A/C products. what is the ID# for the B208? I would like to view a parts manual to see the differences between a Broadmoor and the little Allis. I thought the 728/738 and B208 where sister tractors.
watson6 Posted June 23, 2006 Author Posted June 23, 2006 I would like to say thank you to all that have helped me with this. I did get a diagram and part numbers for the tranny, Thanks to Scott (skot71).
watson6 Posted July 2, 2006 Author Posted July 2, 2006 Well, The tranny is back together. The problem was a shifting fork indexing spring was broken. I could not find the item through the use of the part number. I happened to have some that where very close in my workshop. The parts for this tranny are not available anymore. But in my search for parts, I found a 707 to use until Allis is back out in the yard working. Thanks Jeff
Ketchamized Posted July 2, 2006 Posted July 2, 2006 firefoxz1, Just saw your message... I apologize for the long response as well as the long wait time. :) My tractor's a B-210, the sister tractor for that (Simplicity) is the Landlord 3210v. As for the B-208's, I looked at the cross reference chart and couldn't find the B-208's on it. The reference chart: (Allis to Simplicity) http://www.simpletractors.com/X-reference/ac_s_pg1.htm Another Reference chart: (Simplicity to Allis) http://www.simpletractors.com/X-reference/s_ac_pg1.htm As for the Allis model designation, here's some information: In 1961 the first Allis-Chalmers garden tractor, the 7.25 horsepower B-1, was born. Except for paint, decals and minor sheet metal changes, it was identical to the Simplicity 725. In 1963, the B-1 was replaced by the 9 horsepower B-10. In 1965 the B-10 became the Big-10 with a new 10 horsepower engine. In 1966, the Big Ten reverted back to the B-10 when the new B-12 was introduced. Up until 1971 all Allis garden tractors were painted yellow and were powered by Briggs engines. During 1965, Allis-Chalmers purchased Simplicity. The federal government challenged the purchase. Due to the fair trade laws in effect at that time, the government claimed that Allis-Chalmers controlled too great a share of the market and thus limited competition. As a result, in 1967, Allis-Chalmers opened a new plant in Lexington, South Carolina to build garden tractors. The first models built there were the B-207, B-110, B-112 and HB-112. The B-208, B-210, B-212, and HB-212 were introduced in 1970. That aside, a B-208 obviously would be a 8 horsepower tractor made in that second plant in Lexington, South Carolina. Back to that story: Also in 1971, the B-207 and B-208 were updated to the new paint scheme, but retained Briggs power. The 206, 207, and 208 were continued as the Homesteader series from 1972 to 1974. Also in 1972, Allis-Chalmers introduced the model 616, which was the Simplicity PowrMax with orange paint and a different hood. The 616 became the 620 in 1973 with the new 20 horsepower engine. In 1975 the 620 was relabeled as the 720 to match the numbering of the updated smaller tractors. To the best of our knowledge the 620 and 720 models are identical except that the later 720’s had an upgraded front axle. AC later came out with a second model 616, which was a painted over Simplicity 4216 and had no relation to the earlier “PowrMax” 616. During the Nixon administration, most of the fair trade laws were repealed, so in 1973 Allis-Chalmers closed the Lexington plant and transferred all production back to Port Washington. So, basically, the B-208 was only made between 1967 and 1973. Hope this helps you figure out the differences, or that this information will help point you in the right direction. Best Regards, Erick
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