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already looked in the owner manual and lub chart, I am seeing 1.5 quarts to fill. is this correct and where is the check plug is it the on located on the side of the tanny and the top plug is just the vent plug? confused
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This is from a Simplicity manual, but I think your B112 should be similar. The oil should be up to the 'filler plug' level. It's easier (I think) to take out the filler plug and fill it from the top plug 'till it comes out the filler plug.

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Thanks so much, I had that diagram in the pdf but the filler plug arrow was missing. Your response was timely
Ketchamized
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I have a Simplicity 3012v operator/parts manual. Please note that this is the sister tractor of the B-212, so I would think that this applies to your tractor as well. Here's what it says: 1.5 quarts of SAE 90 oil. It says that it shouldn't require to be replenished, but if it leaks, it will have to be. It also says "Maintain oil level at lower edge of filler plug hole. Remove vent plug from top of transmission and allow oil to settle to normal level before checking." So that thing on the top is a vent hole. Take the plug out, and take both the drain plug and the filler plug. Drain it completely. I'd suggest putting your finger on the filler plug, and gently put an air compressor hose on the top, put air pressure on it to force the oil to drain out the bottom completely. Then put the bottom plug (drain plug) back on securely. Then use a funnel and put it in the filler plug and fill it up until it flows back (right up to the filler plug level). Shake the tractor a little bit and put in a little more until it's full to the filler plug if necessary. Put in filler plug, secure it. Then put the top vent plug on. That should do the job. Good luck!
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Ketchamized The Simplicity cross over tractor to the Allis Chalmers B-212 is the 3212V The HB-212 is the Simplicity 3212H B-110 = 2210 short w/b 3 spd B-110 = 2210V B-112 = 3112V HB-112 = 3112H B-210 = 3210V HB-212 = 3212h THERE ARE Differences between the various series numbers
Ketchamized
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UCD, I always knew that there are differences. I wasn't saying that their tractor was the same as mine. I was just saying that IF it was, then this is the information I had. Someone here told me that the B-112 and the B-210 had the same vari-shift transmission. I think it was Kent... So, based on that information, I thought I'd share what I got in my manual. So, if the 3210v is the sister tractor of the B-210... And if the B-210 uses the same transmission as the B-112, it would only reason that all 3 of these transmissions are the same? I would believe that is true, unless I got bad information in the first place. Thanks for posting that list for the benefit of everyone. Much appreciated. :) Best, Erick
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Yes I know it doesnt need changing but with it being 38 years old and new to me I decided since it was still running some Amsoil extreme duty gear oil couldn't hurt. Want this tranny and gear box to last me awhile.
Ketchamized
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I agree, that if there's a fluid that is better than what's originally recommended, we should go for it. After all, we do love our machines. :) I was wondering about the Amsoil extreme duty gear oil- I have never heard of it- would it be a better replacement than the original? Would it affect how the gear system functions, in the sense of it being slower due to the thicker fluids (assuming the Amsoil is thicker?)? If it's better than SAE 90 oil, and wouldn't harm the transmission, then I'm going to do the same for my tractor. Thanks, Erick
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NO its 75w-90, you can get 140 but I didn't go for it. I have always ran Redline(snythetic) fluid in my manual tranny in the car and I love the stuff, makes the shifter smooth. I have only heard raves about Amsoil stuff so I decided to try it. Amazingly the oil that came out was in great shape and I didn't feel any grit in it, hopefully the guts are in presteen shape. Bevel box oil was a bit darker. Small price to pay for longevity.
Ketchamized
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portuncia, I noticed in another post by Kent that apparently the B-110 and the B-210 doesn't have exactly the same shaft. Just wanted to make sure you saw that. My apologies on any confusion. I was given the wrong information originally. :o( That would explain why my tractor uses SAE 90 oil in the tranny. (According to my manual) and yours uses 75W-90. Do you think that the Amsoil will be ok in my B-210? Sincerely, Erick
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The Amsoil will be fine. I use either 75w-90 or 80w-90 in my manual 3 speeds and BGB`s.
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Yes, mine calls for SAE 90 also but 75w-90 is adequate and the Amsoil can't hurt. Heard nothing but good things about their products, I have used Redline in the past on cars and love it.
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Ketchamized You were not given bad info. There is a straight B-110 and a B-110 with Variable shift. The Variable shift and Hydro tractors are 4" longer. You are reading in to the posts things that are not there. The BGB on the B-110 short wheel base 3 speed manual is different than the B-110, B-112 long wheel base with the 3 speed variable shift tractor. The B-110/B-112 long wheel base with the 3 speed variable shift is the same as a B-210/B-212 tractor. Kent told you right. The B-110 Variable, B-112 variable, B-210 variable and B-212 Variable and the straight 3 speed B-110 have the same 3 speed Transmission. The difference is the B-110 Variable, B-112 variable, B-210 variable and B-212 Variable have a different Bevel Gear Box and the variable pulley setup. 75w-90 gear lube is a replacement for 90w gear lube The 75w-90 is a multi weight gear lube and is thinner at colder temps than the straight 90w gear lube. AmsOil is a premium grade synthetic oil. It was one of the first Synthetic oil brands and has been around for 35-40 years.
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I can chime in here and say, based on my experience with farm equipment where a LOT of gearboxes are used, that you guys can use either 90w, 80w-90, or 75w-90 in those gearboxes with no ill effects despite what is called for. All will provide proper lube to the gears. The 75w & 80w will have better viscosity in extreme cold weather. I would choose those if the tractor was to be used on a blade or blower in the wintertime. If you lived in warmer climates, 90w would be just fine. Although I've never personally used Amsoil products, I have a cousin who is a diesel mechanic for Cummins Diesel who swears by Amsoil (swears BY it, not AT it!!). Amsoil gear lube should have much better viscosity in extreme cold being a synthetic. Also, I don't think I've ran into too many gearboxes that didn't have two plugs, a drain and a fill. Rule of thumb is to fill to the bottom edge of fill plug. If there are three plugs, the middle plug is an oil level plug. Take out the top (fill) and middle (level). Add oil until is starts to run out of the middle plug and replace plugs.
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