Ryno Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Well guys I need your help in hunting down a needle bearing for my '73 3416S. After trying Jacks Small Engines, City Grinding in New Britain, and trying the web to no avail. Im here to ask if any of you may have a sorce somewheres for this part. Its part number 154259 according to City Grinding it was stopped by simplicity in 2003 and have no cross number for it. Is it possible that i could use another needle bearing maybe from an AC or similiar brand? -Ryan- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayS Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Is there a number on the bearing it self. Usaully there is a number from the bearing manufacturer on one of the outside edges of the bearing. Simplicity doesn`t make bearings so there should be a number on it somewhere. Ist the bearing for a BGB box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UCD Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Some more info would help alot. Are you sure you have the correct part#? What tractor is it for? Where is this Needle bearing used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Sounds like a case for Brenda at Sandy Lake Impl.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richp Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 Bay state bearings in West Hartford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted November 5, 2006 Author Share Posted November 5, 2006 Ok boys you wanted more info heres some more info, its stamped Torrington M-13141 which is Torrington bearings obviously. Now there is 3 of them total and they are used in the transmission for the first, second and third intermediate shafts. Ok, now the reason why I'm replacing them? Because i had both halfs of the tranny hot tanked so we can start out completely clean. Now its time to start putting humpty dumpty back together again. Im gonna see in Torrington Bearing has a website and see if i can find anything there... -Ryan- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wminmi Posted November 5, 2006 Share Posted November 5, 2006 quote:Originally posted by MPH Sounds like a case for Brenda at Sandy Lake Impl.:) I 2nd that one, Brenda can get ANYTHING :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhardin Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 https://www.motionindustries.com/motion3/jsp/mi/index.jsp I use these people all the time there very good. I think ther a division of NAPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatRarick Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 If you take the old bearings to any bearing supply house, they can match them up either by number, or by size. One thing you'll want to watch for is the number of needles or balls in the replacement bearing. You'll want to choose bearings with as close to the same number of needles or ball as the original bearings. Less needles or balls means a lower quality bearing that most likely will not last as long. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilm169 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 (My repairman when I can't find things like this) well the flat needle bearing in my sickle bar went out and he had one laying there for it, I ask him what it was for and why he had it, he said it was used in a corn picker snapping rolls in the nose cone and he had rebuilt some there. (Other uses that work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWGAllisfan Posted November 16, 2006 Share Posted November 16, 2006 Did you ever find an equal to this bearing? It seems like it was fairly widely used in the gear transmissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryno Posted November 27, 2006 Author Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well folks after scouring various sources, ISO Parts, Bearing Distributors, Timken etc etc... it has been determined that the bearing is no longer available, whether or not someone has some sitting on a shelf who knows but this is what i had come up with according to the sorces mentioned above there is no cross number. Thats the best i can come up with so im just gonna reuse the old bearings they roll fine. -Ryan- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simpleton7016 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 ...or buy another tractor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlH Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Just did a search at A & W Bearing Supply. There are 31 in inventory in Singapore. No price given and $100 minimum order. Might be worth investing in?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronald Hribar Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 The replacement for that bearing is B1314 and they are $5.41 each. HOWEVER the construction of the bearing is different. I believe the dimenstions are the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Gang, There is a difference in same size needle roller bearings. The ones with caged rollers have about half the number of rollers as the uncaged ones. I'm pretty sure Simplicity and A-C uses uncaged needle rollers in the transmissions. Much better load capacity and longer life. Be careful when substituting bearings. Just a word of caution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatRarick Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 It appears from my parts manual that this is the needle bearing with the closed end. If so, a standard needle bearing can be used and an expansion or frost plug installed behind it. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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