SmilinSam Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Looking at a Massey version of the Lanlord with the Liquid cooled Kawasaki. Are these engines any good? Any troubles with these? This one is a 2001 model. How are these tractors on resale value compared to the Vanguard air cooled units? [img]http://agriculture.birkeys.com/catalog/image/products/U141309-1.jpg[/img] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayS Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I have a friend that has a liquid cooled Kawasaki on a Scag mower and he hasn`t had problems. He mows for a living. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacey Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 I had a Landlord built around 1998 with the liquid-cooled Kawasaki 17-horse twin, hydro tranny. I was the third owner, I believe. I liked how the tractor cut, of course (it also had the turbo grass collection system, with the electric PTO), and it ran quiet. I had an issue with the fuel system, though. First, it used a lot of gas, probably twice what my Broadmoor uses. And second, I had to have my local dealer figure out a stalling problem that developed. The problem ended up being a dirty carb. For what it's worth, that same Kaw engine is used on some Deere models. Tacey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmilinSam Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share Posted April 1, 2007 What type of Broadmoor are you referring to in comparrison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrician12 Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 If the watercooled is like my 23hp air cooled it runs great except the slightest dirt in the carb will knock it out.I remedied this by running 2 gas filters.It runs smooth and quiet and is powerful as all locomotive,Never breaks a sweat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacey Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 quote:Originally posted by SmilinSam What type of Broadmoor are you referring to in comparrison? An old Broadmoor II, model 6011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmilinSam Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share Posted April 1, 2007 I figured that. The 10 and 11 HP L head engines I have here run a lot longer long on the same gas as the new V twin Vanguards. I wonder if a guy could put a block heater in one of these Kawasaki's for warming it up in the winter prior to use? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 "The 10 and 11 HP L head engines I have here run a lot longer long on the same gas as the new V twin Vanguards." Simple equation: More hp = more fuel. But, the extra power sure is nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tacey Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 quote:Originally posted by SmilinSam I figured that. The 10 and 11 HP L head engines I have here run a lot longer long on the same gas as the new V twin Vanguards. That's exactly why I prefer Simple trACtors! :D Tacey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewk Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 They are very reliable, from what I have seen. I have worked on that same series of engine in Deere's and in the Simplicity/AGCO, and they are very nice. Water pumps are a hassle to replace, but they are reliable. They can overheat if the grass screen gets plugged, but if you keep em pretty clean, they work well. Resale value is generally higher than the air cooled units. It was probably a 7000 dollar tractor new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedbarnRick Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 I have a 98 Agco-Allis 1700 (landlord) 17 hp liquid cooled and it's been great, on rare occasions I wish it had a little more horsepower, but I probably use it harder than most people would. In comparison to my Soveriegns, or the 738 this thing rides like a Cadillac and it mows just like a Simplicity should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPH Posted April 2, 2007 Share Posted April 2, 2007 Water cooled engine plus snowblower = heated cab^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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