wminmi 0 Posted April 8, 2007 I picked up a little Wards rear engine rider yesterday while in Indiana, and the previous owner said that it HAD to have leaded fuel, or the lead additve added to unleaded fuel. Why? Is the difference in the 2 fuels enough to warrant adding the additive? It appears that the little 5hp briggs already has a pretty burnt valve, but i'm curious here as to why it would need leaded gas? What does it hurt? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RayS 80 Posted April 8, 2007 At the time they made these old tractors you had leaded fuel. I believe that the B series repair manual states to use it. I have used unleaded gas in my HB 212 ever since I have owned it and my father owned it before me. All he ever used was unleaded. I wouuldn`t worry about it. Plus I believe unlead leaves less carbon in the cylinder head and the top of the piston. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MPH 12 Posted April 8, 2007 Seems to me if the guy always used lead additive and it has a pretty burnt valve anyway there wasn't much gain for the dollars spend. " leaded gas? What does it hurt?" al gorie will hang you from the tail wing of his private jet and fly off to China to give a talk about global warming for 750,000 dollars, think that might hurt your neck a bitXX( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wminmi 0 Posted April 8, 2007 quote:Originally posted by MPH Seems to me if the guy always used lead additive and it has a pretty burnt valve anyway there wasn't much gain for the dollars spend. right! I was just curious if there was a reasoning behind it, like maybe unleaded would mess the engine up or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaveL 0 Posted April 8, 2007 Was told once that the leaded allowed the use of "softer valves" --the lead deposits kept the valves from burning. I've never had a problem using unleaded either. I'm thinking the cost of the lead additives somewhat equals the cost of the valve job in the long run. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
UCD 14 Posted April 8, 2007 Lead was added as a valve lubricant and the older engines had softer valve seats. I have been told that they started using the hardened valve seats in the early sixties about the time Ammoco gas selling it's White gas. (unleaded gas) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goatfarmer 817 Posted April 8, 2007 Where's the picture? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wminmi 0 Posted April 8, 2007 just for you Kenny :I Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
goatfarmer 817 Posted April 8, 2007 Not too shabby! Wouldn't kick it outta my garage!;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wminmi 0 Posted April 8, 2007 yeah, she's a cute little bugger :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KraigRG 0 Posted April 11, 2007 I'm with UCD concerning the original need for lead in gasoline. I know air cooled aircraft piston engines need the lead for lubricating the valves. That's one reason Avgas still contains lead even though other leaded fuels were eliminated long ago. I haven't had any problem using unleaded in any Briggs/Kohler engine. Kraig Share this post Link to post Share on other sites