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ibelee
I presently have two 15lb. weights on my B-112 rear wheels. These are the inner rim type. I'm looking at the 22 lb. outer rim type on ebay to add in conjuntion to the rear weights. This would give me a total of 74 lbs of rear weights plus my 185lbs. The tractor has new meat AG's and is to be used as a garden tractor with a 10" bottom plow, 46" tiller, rear cultivator, and a 48" fully hydraulic snow plow(approximately 275lbs)in the winter. The question, again, is can you overload the rear with too much weight?

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olcowhand
You're in no danger of overloading anything. People add MUCH more weight than you're gonna have. Adding the weight to the wheels is much better than adding to frame as it doesn't load the axles with the weight. My loader tractor has 26x12x12's filled with almost 100lb fluid each, plus the 50lb weight on each wheel and I'd almost add more weight to the inside of the rims. Don't be afraid to add more weight if you want. The more the merrier when doing ground work.

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B-16_IC
I would say that any weight put on or in the tire/rim would not hurt the tractor at all. I would however pay attention to the weight limits of the tires. I do not think your plans will exceed that. Also remember that additional weight will make it harder to stop due to inertia. Those are my thoughts anywho.

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firefoxz1
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Originally posted by B-16_IC
I would say that any weight put on or in the tire/rim would not hurt the tractor at all. I would however pay attention to the weight limits of the tires. I do not think your plans will exceed that. Also remember that additional weight will make it harder to stop due to inertia. Those are my thoughts anywho.
I have to agree if you don't go around popping the clutch all the time. It's also harder to get the added weight turning.

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Tom_Byrne
MY TWO CENTS: I'm of the belief thay you should only put as much weight in the proper places as needed, for most of the reasons listed above. Most of our machines here in the club are 30+ years old (newest for me is 1967!), and I'm always concerned with axle tubes, transmissions and BGB's going south due to un-needed strain from extra weight, and pushing an old machinejust that little bit too far. Just my humble:I, paranoidsm00 opinion!

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MarksA-C
with my Rear weight rack and the 2 blocks, I have over 90+lbs on my small 610. It feels good to me, no lost traction or anything. And for my other broadmoors I have Cast Wheel weights that are about 30+ lb each. Just know your limits of the tractor and stay where you feel comfortable.

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ReedS
My little 112 wthe the loader runs approx 300 lbs of counterweight in the box. I have no traction problems but it will chew up the right side hub (and/or diff, axle tube etc.) if I start getting wheel spin. Bottom line when running heavily weighted is go easy on the clutch and watch out for wheel spin. And no chains! ;)

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Unkle Spike
I have my rears loaded with windshield washer, around 50 lbs each, and wheel weights 50 lbs each if I need them, I don't keep them mounted but on standby. To me loaded tires make more sense for everyday, when you stop or start it sloshes, verses the torque of the weights. Just my opinion. As far as how much is too much? Enough to get the job done.

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SmilinSam
I have had literally a few hundred tractors through here for junk and parts over the last ten years, and most of the Simplicity/AC ones that came with wheel weights had differential problems. Whne the diffs were taken apart there is always generally alot more wear and tear to the keyways inside than on tractors that had no wheel weight. My opinion that the damage is largley due to a combination of the wheel weights and "rammy" clutching and direction reversals. the more weight you add to the wheels the nicer you want to drive and shift directions to save wear. I prefer weight hanging from the frame myself, but then you put stress on the axles and axle bearings. Trade one problem for another maybe?

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john-holcomb
Many of you have heard me say it before, I use and pull my 3410 at any where from 950# to 1300#. I have plowed snow at 1200# with ag tires and chains for the last 8 years. No Problems [knock on wood]:D. But if you abuse and not use, any amount of weight is too much. Do I use my tractor at a much greater weight than it was intended for? YES, YES, YES, Do I beat the poop out of it? NO, NO, NO. It not the iron hanging off the frame that kills a tractor:(! its the nut behind the wheel.

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ibelee
Thanks for the input from all. The reason I'm asking the question is because I am experiencing a problem with the plow and tiller. While running a 10" Brinley Bottom Plow I seem to have pleanty of HP, but both wheels slip at 50% of penetration. When I get my wife to stand on the back of the seat it pulls through(would post a pick of that but she is the photographer)(by the way, she is also 185lbs and I am supposed to say she is not fat but just tall and big boned):I. When tilling ground at 50% penetration that has been plowed at 100% penetration I am still slipping. The ground down here is pretty sandy/loamy. Not too much clay.

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