Nubian 3 Posted August 2, 2007 Starter problems again. Turning the key spins the starter in the position seen, it does not retract or extend nor does it engage the flywheel I can't tell if the teeth are worn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lonnyb 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Check to see if the gear on the starter is turning, if it is not you will need to check to see if the roll pin has sheared. I had a simialuar problem on a old crapsman lawnmower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richp 0 Posted August 3, 2007 I had the same problem a few years back. You have to replace the starter gear. There is a clutch built in to the gear so if the motor backfires when cranking it won't damage the starter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nubian 3 Posted August 3, 2007 I don't know what the starter gear is but it does spin at the point of contact with the flywheel only there is no contact I seem to remember that the drive pinion extends out to engage the flywheel. It appears that the drive pinion is stuck in that extended position (with the key on or off) and just spins at a high rate when attempting to start.quote:Originally posted by lonnyb Check to see if the gear on the starter is turning, if it is not you will need to check to see if the roll pin has sheared. I had a simialuar problem on a old crapsman lawnmower. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
richp 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Try spraying oil behind the gear, it could be dry keeping it from extending out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
firefoxz1 4 Posted August 3, 2007 Well it looks like the starter got stuck out the last time it started and wore down the teeth. I can see little pieces of metal all around there. If I am seeing right it looks like you may have worn your ring gear teeth down also meaning beside changing you starter/drive you will either need another flywheel or if the gear is changable a ring gear. I do not know what the teeth normally looks like on that engine. Change the starter and check the meshing of the teeth before you put everything thing back together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nubian 3 Posted August 3, 2007 i have a brand new OEM starter that i can compare teeth with but does anyone know the lenght of the teeth on the flywheel? I have been bedridden after knee surgery since Tues. i will crawl out and measure the flywheel teeth tomorrow.quote:Originally posted by firefoxz1 Well it looks like the starter got stuck out the last time it started and wore down the teeth. I can see little pieces of metal all around there. If I am seeing right it looks like you may have worn your ring gear teeth down also meaning beside changing you starter/drive you will either need another flywheel or if the gear is changable a ring gear. I do not know what the teeth normally looks like on that engine. Change the starter and check the meshing of the teeth before you put everything thing back together. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roy 0 Posted August 3, 2007 Looks like the starter gear is too far from the flywheel ring gear. See if the starter mounting position can be adjusted so the teeth mesh properly. Maybe the bottom starter mounting bolt is missing?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites