Glacier 0 Posted December 19, 2007 Last pass blowing snow on Tuesday. This is a not so good pic of the right side of block when sitting on the tractor. And this is what I found in the oil pan. I am going to replace the 12 with a 16. The 16 has a gear starter and I don't know how to wire it so I might switch it over to a starter/generator. Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastPaul 0 Posted December 19, 2007 Ouch !! That looks very familiar :O:O:O Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D-17_Dave 12 Posted December 19, 2007 You'll like the gear starter for the 16 much better and it's a simple cross over on thw wiring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReedS 5 Posted December 19, 2007 Changing over to a later model with the gear starter is not a big deal. Been there done that. It does require some rewiring but I don't believe it to be too difficult. Just remove the standard voltage regulator, wire the bat feed (BAT term on standard regulator) to the bat term on the voltage regulator/ rectifier and if it has a starter relay already then the switched battery goes to the starter as seen in the photo of my now sold B112 w/ a 16 hp B+s. [img]/club2/attach/ReedS/DSCN1473.JPG[/img] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mwells 8 Posted December 20, 2007 Boy I hope this briggs blowing rods streak ends soon!! Hope you can get it going soon! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glacier 0 Posted December 20, 2007 Up and running again !! And all back together!!! Just a few small things left. Like lengthen the choke cable and hook up the alternator wire. Have to change the decals to HB 216. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glacier 0 Posted December 20, 2007 Thanks for the pictures and the advice guys. This site ROCKS. Jeff Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rsnik 1 Posted December 20, 2007 I thought a late model 16 would not drop into an Allis frame because the large frame tractors have kind of a bucket the engine sits in and the FDT frame is different, particularly with regards to the oil drain. Did you have to swap pans or does a late model 16 just bolt in? What about the drive shaft? Do you use the old one or need to use the one that came with the new engine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Glacier 0 Posted December 20, 2007 If memory serves me right, I swopped out the oil pan from a different motor. And as far as the drive shaft it bolted right up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
joshuaareed 0 Posted December 20, 2007 Holy Crap are you in competition with FastPaul. That was a fast change out. Looking good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FastPaul 0 Posted December 20, 2007 Mint , You'll like the 16 I put one in my B-112 too , Great job :D:D:D:D:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
D-17_Dave 12 Posted December 20, 2007 Same oil pan. Sometimes you may have to remove the pan and turn the inlet?outlet for the oil around so it aligns with the AC frame holes but it's the same otherwise. The same booster fan is on the front so the driveshaft bolts right up too. Almost as if they were made just for this.:D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ReedS 5 Posted December 20, 2007 Jonathan, Once you get to the later models, such as the early landlord and B-10 models the briggs engines are fairly interchangeble. Only the early models like the simplicity 700, 725 and the Allis B-1 need frame modification for the later and bigger engines to fit. Specifically there is a cutout in the frame that allows the larger engines to fit. Occasionally the engine pan will need to be reversed for the oil drain plug to be in the right place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites