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Simpleton7016
Actually got some tractor time today and started work on the sicle bars (5 of them) that came from Florida. Three are complete but two are missing the control arm that moves the blade back and forth and one is missing the connection plate thingy (bolts to the bar with 3 bolts). 4 are missing the pulley that bolts to the side of the tractor. In all cases, I have at least one good part to use as a template if I need to have someone fab them up. I suspect that none of these are available through simplicity. Have any of y'all ever had a spare made up of any of them? Is there anything to watch out for?
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I've never had anything made for my mower except the new bar I got from Howard, so I cannot be of much help there. The one I bought a few years ago was in a lot worse shape than I thought. I am down to needing just a few items to get it usable again. I need bushings 43 & 44 as well as rod end 41. If you can grab some measurement on the bushings, it sure would be a life saver to avoid some experimental fitting. Thanks!


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Not a problem. The weeds haven't emerged from the snow drifts yet, so I have a few days. :D Whenever you can get to it is fine. Thanks!
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your local bearing supply can get you an equivalent of part 41. it's called a 'heim end'(pronounced 'hime', like 'time') they come in right hand or left hand thread. i think i paid around $22 each for them 6 years ago. i was told that the pulley that bolts to the tractor to lift the bar is NLA. i had to buy a junk tractor for $100 to get mine-he wouldn't sell just the pulley. fortunately there were enough other usable parts, and i had a cash surplus at that time, to justify buying the junker.
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How close do you need the measurement Mike? Here are some pics of the parts that I am going to be looking for - keep in mind that the graph starts at 1" (not 0). I like the idea of the Heim Ends....
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The id and od of the bushings I can pretty much get from the bolt and the id of the heim end. The lengths of the bushings and the flange dia and thickness is what I am not too clear on. Mainly looking for the difference between 43 & 44. dav - thanks for the input. I had looked at rod ends from a couple of suppliers but when they started listing different materials for the ball, I was not too sure how extreme I had to go. Thanks all ...
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http://www.simpletractors.com/club2/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=12160 http://www.simpletractors.com/club2/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=19099 part #172725, which is the same pulley used with tractors with mower lift cables and is still available. The pivot pin is part #102004. [img]/club2/attach/dutch/cable-conversion.jpg[/img]
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Simpleton7016
Thanks Maynard. PS to everyone too and maybe this is common knowledge, but the guy I bought my load from was the son of a simplicity dealer and he told me that the spring on the sickle bars (listed as NLA) is identical to the ones used on Spring trip plows....so hold tight to your plow springs.:)
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Might be Tuesday before i can get them, OK Mike?
BUMP.... Have you had a chance to check them yet? Not trying to hurry ya, just didn't want the post to die.
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Whoops, my deepest apologies Mike. Here are the measurements that I think you are asking for. .255
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.755
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Mike, please be advised too that my arm is different than the one pictured above....but I do believe it to be original the the attachment.
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By chance, I was out in my shed and looked at my own sickle bar (which has not yet been tested). My sickle is the newer model with the planetary gear (I think the 785 model #). It DOES have an arm like the one in the diagram above. I am uncertain if and when haban made the switch to a new style arm or if maybe that arm was used only on the RBT style sickles. Mike, is yours an RBT model? My sickle is absulutely buried, but I will try to get in there and dissassemble the arm to get the measurements you need. Are the measurements I took above the ones you need?...just on the newer style pivot-arm?
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By chance, I was out in my shed and looked at my own sickle bar (which has not yet been tested). My sickle is the newer model with the planetary gear (I think the 785 model #). It DOES have an arm like the one in the diagram above. I am uncertain if and when haban made the switch to a new style arm or if maybe that arm was used only on the RBT style sickles. Mike, is yours an RBT model? My sickle is absulutely buried, but I will try to get in there and dissassemble the arm to get the measurements you need. Are the measurements I took above the ones you need?...just on the newer style pivot-arm?
Mine is a FDT model.


Bushing 43 & 44 are what I need and I was just wondering what the differences are between the two. I would assume the OD and ID would be the same, maybe a dangerous assumption.




Don't go out of your way with all else you have going on to tear it apart, but just tag it in the back of your mind when you get to it, or if someone has this information readily available it would be appreciated. Thanks Mike
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I did not forget about you Mike. I got out in the shed this last weekend and ripped the arm off of mine. It did not have those spacers. So I looked at the arms of the other FDT style sickles in my garage and none of them had it either. They are all the old style pitman arm. So I am afraid that I can be of no help to you whatsoever. But, I did see this on e-bay and thought of you... [url="http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-8-1-2-High-Misalignment-Spacers-Rod-Ends-Heim-Joint_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp3286Q2em20Q2el1116QQhashZitem280324774298QQitemZ280324774298QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories"]Ebay Rod Ends Heim Joint [/url]
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This is the place to go for heim ends and high misalignment spacers. I've ordered from them and shipping was fast. http://www.midwestcontrol.com/92.php
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What is the function of the high misalignment spacers? I looked at a bunch of different control arms on different models and didn't see any...
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