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mongolio
Does anyone have the part number for a replacement K341 cannister muffler? The part number they give in the parts catalog is for the "pepper-pot" style, not the cannister & Kohler's website doesn't have any that look like mine. I've searched high & low & the only (1) I've found is currently on e-Bay, but is cracked. Thanks, Scott

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Chris727
What tractor are you needing it for? Most Simplicity tractors used mufflers manufactured by Nelson Muffler and can be purchased through Simplicity. As far as I know only the AC 300/400 tractors used a true "kohler" muffler.

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mongolio
Chris, It's for an 1984 AC 916 Hydro with the Kohler K341 motor. It's about 6" dia. x 12" long or so. Looks just like this one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ALLIS-CHALMERS-916-16HP-KOHLER-K341-MUFFLER_W0QQitemZ220466867000QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3354d96b38

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sammiefish
well, you could search around but you might go after a pepper pot style Im finding those as low as $6 new... the canister types are bringing much much more.... jackssmallengines are around $100 even the "true" kohler aftermarket mufflers are only ~ $30

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mongolio
fish, How do the pepper-pot style perform compared to the canister style? Do they even muffle anything or is it going to sound like I'm mowing with a Harley? BTW... Does Nelson Muffler even have a website, I couldn't find anything other than a phone listing & address in Wisconsin. Thanks, Scott

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PhanDad
I believe the muffler pictured is part #1666059. To the best of my knowledge, the same muffler was used on both the Briggs and Kohler single cylinder engines in the 7100 series tractors. Per Jack's, they are NLA. They were expensive, but quiet. To me, the can type mufflers are loud (but cheap). I even tried a Nelson "coffee can" style muffler (from a 10HP FDT Briggs) on my repowered GHTL 16HP Briggs and it was better than the pepper pot, but still too loud.


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sammiefish
if the "pepper pot" is this: http://www.mfgsupply.com/m/c/18-1277.html?id=v4wBP6xm
[img]http://www.simpletractors.com/club2/attach/sammiefish/IMG_1405.JPG[/img]
someone put one on my 312. a little black pipe works wonders.. not real pretty IMO. It works and muffles fine but im comparing to the "true" kohler muffler It does sound different than my 310... the muffler Im using there is: http://cgi.ebay.com/Muffler-for-Wheel-Horse-Kohler-K241-301-321-Cub-Cadet_W0QQitemZ300351563558QQcmdZViewItem?rvr_id=&itemid=300351563558 this muffler is shown nicely in place here on Chris727's 410: http://simpletractors.com/Club2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=107888

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Killer_A-C
The 300 series muffler looks like a CC one but there are different mounting tabs. Fortunatly I found a NOS one for our 310 from an old dealership my friend worked at. I think they are NLA now.

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Chris727
Looking at Power Portal (briggs site) the part # does have an "SM" suffix, this usually indicates the item is available. Might be a temporary glitch in the system. I know some NLA items have come back with replacement supersessions, though sometimes the parts are nothing like the originals. The oddball thing about the 900 series is the long tube that exits through the frame. If you have to buy a "Pepper style" go with an OEM briggs, not aftermarket. I have one a B-110 and its quieter than the original nelson on my HB-212. This particualr muffler has kind of a "putt-putt" sound, but its anything but loud, far better than the $7 mufflers from "Arnold." I think the briggs pepper pot is about $20.

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