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Briggs identification (pics added)

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rpickle
Hi I found a single cylinder B &S on CL for $35. It supposedly has a new carb on it, well new a few years ago. The carb replacement did not fix his issue, so the engine sat. He also claimed it to be a 15HP, but I wasn't aware they made odd HP #'s back then. The Model number name plate is there, but the model number cannot be made out. I think it is a 16HP. It is a rope start with the gas tank mounted to the engine. It isn't stuck. I'll post pics a little later. I'm sure it will be easily identified here. Rick [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rpickle/tractors/100_1175.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rpickle/tractors/100_1176.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rpickle/tractors/100_1177.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a199/rpickle/tractors/100_1178.jpg[/IMG]

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dave45056
No correction needed... Briggs did make a 15hp engine. The 3415 was made in 1972/73 but was not pull start and did not have a gas tank mounted on it. I'm sure you could get that engine configured that way from Briggs, but why anyone would want to pull start that engine is beyond me.

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Learning
A good UNOBSTRUCTED, look at the aluminum head will make it easier to determine. Seven bolt head rules out the 16, 15,12, and 10 hp early briggs used on Allis /Simplicity. I would go with John and Glen based on the 7 bolt and 3 bolt carb. I would also add the oil bath air cleaner and the slotted tin fly wheel cover also point toward a model 19. My 2cents.

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rpickle
Well, I'll take a better look at it tomorrow. I might have just purchased a spare that I really don't have a use for... Glad it is still '09 and I haven't all ready tarnished '10 yet! Appreciate the feedback. Rick

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Corncountytractors
I would not be discouraged what ever it is. $35.00 do you have any idea what it would cost to replace this engine today. All and All I would say great buy the carb is worth that price. BOB

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rick66
Just by looking at it, i'd say it is a model 23. I Found a 23DFB recently here in Ohio that was on a Log splitter. It looks identical to this one, even the gas tank on the side. Mine It even ran on the bench when I got it home. I put new rings in it, now its ready to go in the 64 Simplicity I have.

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rpickle
A closer look at the model number and I can make out "T 4". Doesn't seem to be anything else stamped in the model number slot. Type is 202043 and serial is 57871. A lot of mouse nest crap around the shroud and behind the flywheel. Trying to remove the flywheel, but it won't budge. Will soak it overnight.

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UCD
By the serial #57871 I think it is a MODEL SERIES 23 L-HEAD, 3.0" BORE built in jan 1951 JMO. Tractor Discussions Answers to Commonly Asked Questions Briggs & Stratton Engine Identification By Model # http://www.simpletractors.com/club2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=28709 Tractor Discussions Answers to Commonly Asked Questions Technical Data for for Early Briggs & Stratton Eng http://www.simpletractors.com/club2/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=72798

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According to my old information, type numbers 202010 thru 202299 were Model 14. Their production run was from March '48 thru October '63. Guessing at a year built is a toughy as the type number could have been valid thru the whole build run, but knowing Briggs it died a favor of a new number, so will go with Maynard '48 thru '51.

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UCD
A MODEL SERIES 14 L-HEAD, 2.625" BORE SN 57871 would make it Feb 1950. http://www.asecc.com/data/briggs/data4.html#23D Pull the head off and measure the bore dia.

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Originally posted by albj93
With the Square type points cover I would go with a Model 19 Plus doesn't 202043 indicate a 20 cubic inch engine?
Andy, the type number is strictly a bill of material number for manufacturing and parts identification which sort of holds true today. Today you need both model and type code to get get correct parts.

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