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Sovereign Frame color

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hotrodtractor
I was under the impression that 1997 and newer soveriegns had the gray frame. However, I think I am seeing some with black. I always thought triad (97+) had gray. From my exepereince the balck paint seems to hold up much better and easier to match if you need touch up. Anyone confirm a newer black frame? And why the mixed bag, did it have to do with the Agco versions? What I know for sure my 95 and 96 have black my 75th and 99/2000 have gray!

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PhanDad
I thought the gray was only used on the 75th tractor. But the Argo Allis 918H shown in this listing looks gray: http://cgi.ebay.com/Agco-Allis-918H-Simplicity-Garden-Tractor-/220692756790?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3362503936 The last Simplicity catalog I have showing the Sovereign is 1998 and the pic clearly shows a black frame and OHC engine:


Only grey paint I've seen listed in any Sovereign manual is #1685718, Metallic Gray (Wheels).

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MikeES
Is the "grey we talking about the later tractors that were painted a "satin black" that had a sort of charcoal sheen to them?

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hotrodtractor
so far all those shown look black not grey/charcoal to me. my examples. Ron yes that's the vanguard in there just test fitting :) thanks for the deal on it.




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hotrodtractor
[quote]Originally posted by PhanDad
I thought the gray was only used on the 75th tractor. But the Argo Allis 918H shown in this listing looks gray: http://cgi.ebay.com/Agco-Allis-918H-Simplicity-Garden-Tractor-/220692756790?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3362503936 Yes that is the gray I am talking about

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hotrodtractor
maybe my 2000 got a left over 75th frame or something. Mine was near the end of the list in the service manual 1693407 crazy part is it's serial # 02. The absolute last simplicity one is 1693409. Guess there is no rhyme or reason for the frame color. All I know is the dull gray sucks compared to the black for durability and matching.

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Tarheel
I know this thread is old but did you ever get it figured out ? That "Grey" looks to me like nothing more than sun faded black. Pretty common around here.

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hotrodtractor
no there are definitely two different paints one is black one is gray/charcoal. I have had several since this post seems that most new ones with triad had the gray frame. ones with command had black. Burntimes triad has a black frame so I don't think there is a standard.

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Tarheel
hmmm, My 918H Agco has grey wheels but the frame is black. But there are not near as many Simplicity's around here as most of you seem to have to the north. I guess its less likely I'd see one of those.

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