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jverhaag
Hay crew I have high floatation tires on the rear end of my 4041. I am considering putting ballast in the rear tires as they are worthless in deep mud. The owners manual tells me how much to put in them but does not address whether it is a good idea or not ? What are your thoughts on calcium for the rear tires as counter weight? John V

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larry8200
Weight always helps, but if you have turf treads the only thing thats going to make much difference in mud is chains. I am partial to iron wheel weights, getiing hard to find and pricey though. My $0.02 worth :)

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D-17_Dave
Agree with Levi, stay away from calcium. Depending on what your doing you can add weight from a rear attchment. I've weighted mine with an I-beam yard tool I made and it seems like there isn't anywhere I can't go. Deep mud with flotation tires? WOW, what are you doing that needs that much more traction? Curious......

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dhardin
I have washer fluid in 2 of my 6 tractors and love it. My 4041 has the standard 29x12x15s and works well on grass but I am hoping to get attachments that will call for more traction. I am looking at the 31x15.5x15 ag lug tires. But sit down when you look at the price. There is nothing like a ag lug tire when your taking ground work with a tractor, weight is need for sure. But the tractor itself is in a weight class to handle most tools for this type. For me in the interm I and working on chains and washer fluid. good luck.

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Willy
If it's the tractor pictured in your profile,I can see why you need more weight. Nice tractor. I use washer fluid on my tractors it will add about 50 lbs per tire. With your flotation tires you should be able to use more fluid. I have reg turfs on my B series tractors and they hold about 4.5 gallons,leaving a little room for a shot of air. I feel loaded tires is a lot easier on the tractor.

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jverhaag
Thanks for the input crew. I do have the iron weights on the rear rims and the back blade hanging off the rear. I will try all of the suggestions offered. I will chain her up, lower the air pressure and see if that makes any difference. Dave: I have a loader on the front of the tractor and as soon as I put a load in the bucket the high floats on the rear just start spinning. The drive way washed out in places and turned to "mud soup". Trying to make repairs. Willy: Washer fluid? The same thing I put in the wind wiper tank? John V

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RedbarnRick
Yes windshield washer fluid, now is the time to buy it since it's the non freezing type for winter, it definitely does not corrode the rims, I pulled off one tire on my soveriegn and the rim was clean as a whistle. I use chains on my tractor whenever I use the loader, once you have a load in the bucket it tends to lift the rear of the tractor enough to make the tires spin, with chains i don't have that problem, i even bought a set of chains for my NH skidsteer, never put them on, we never got enough snow!

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Willy
Willy: Washer fluid? The same thing I put in the wind wiper tank? The very same thing. With your large tires you will notice a big difference. As the old saying go's, Try it you'll like it.:D:D Here a chart of approximate gallons and weight per tire. Liquid Tire Ballast The following table represents the weight achieved by filling the tire 75% full (valve level) with Fluid. Farm Tractor Tires (Turf tires can be found below this chart) TIRE SIZE GALLONS OF WATER ADDED WEIGHT (lbs.) PER TIRE 4.00-12 2 17 4.00-15 2.5 21 4.00-19 3 25 5.00-15 3.5 29 5.50-16 5 42 6.00-12 4.5 37 6.00-14 5 42 6.00-16 6 50 6.50-16 7 58 7.50-10 6 50 7.5L-15 8 66 7.50-16 9 75 7.50-18 10 83 7.50-20 11 92 9.00-10 9 75 9.5L-15 11 92 9.50-20 18 150 9.50-24 20 167 10.00-16 17 142 11.00-12 18 150 11L-15 13 108 11.00-16 23 192 11L-16 15 123 14L-16.1 27 225 Turf Tires 23x8.50-12 6 50 23x10.50-12 7 58 26x12.00-12 10 83 25x8.50-14 7 58 25x7.50-15 6 50 25x10.50-15 7 58 25x12.50-15 8 67 27x8.50-15 7 58 27x9.50-15 9 75 27x10.50-15 10 83 29x12.50-15 14 116 31x12.50-15 18 149 31x13.50-15 19 158 31x15.50-15 20 166 33x12.50-15 22 183 44x18.00-20 56 476

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acfarmer
With a loader you're going to need more weight than fluid.You can make a weight of some sort very easily for the 3 pt.International hanging weights work real nice as they are easily taken on and off.Or a cheapie weight can be made from sticking a Cat 0 drawbar thru a trash can or bucket and filling it with concrete.You'll need to stick something in the concrete to hook to the top link.

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dhardin
Thanks Willy of the washer fluid chat. By these numbers if you fill both back tires on a 4041 standard turf your looking at 232 lbs or 27 gallon of WW. wow I would think that WW and a back blade should hold most bucket loads.

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Willy
quote:
Originally posted by dhardin
Thanks Willy of the washer fluid chat. By these numbers if you fill both back tires on a 4041 standard turf your looking at 232 lbs or 27 gallon of WW. wow I would think that WW and a back blade should hold most bucket loads.
The best part it's unsprung weight you don't have it hanging on your tractor.

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acfarmer
If you're going to stay in the driveway or very flat ground you don't need much weight but if you're going to use it as a real loader on rough terrain and raise the bucket with a load in it to say load a truck then you need lots of weight.Finding out you don't have enough weight with a loader usually isn't a pleasant experience.

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Willy
quote:
Originally posted by jverhaag
Will having a liquid inside the tire affect the balance of the tire? Will it "gallop" if I run her down the road in third gear?
You will never know it's in there,except for the better traction.

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