Jump to content

Unofficial Home of Old Simplicity & Allis-Chalmers Garden Tractors

Chris727

Craftsman, JD, Cub Cadet Kohler in a Simplicity?

Recommended Posts

Chris727

Has anyone succesfully transplanted a KT17 or a Magnum out of a Craftsman, Deere, Bolens, or Cub into a Sovereign? Will the Sunstar engines work in a Sovereign?

Thank you for any infosm01

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Ronald Hribar

I put 20hp Sunstar in Sovereign bolts up fine

may have to change wiring depending on which motor

replaces. otherwise you can destroy ignition system

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
SmilinSam

I think the footprints are all the same on KT17, M18 & m20's. Diferences between tractor brands & applications would be in ignition systems, driveshaft conectors, and maybe pto shafts(most are 1 1/8" though).

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
acfarmer

A lot of Cubs and Deeres have a different oil pan setup/engine mount from Simplicity and sometimes its a easy switch with the pans and sometimes not.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
SmilinSam
quote:Originally posted by acfarmer

A lot of Cubs and Deeres have a different oil pan setup/engine mount from Simplicity and sometimes its a easy switch with the pans and sometimes not.


id="quote">
id="quote">On the old single cylinder Kohlers that is true. Your "A" block pans wont bolt into a Simplicity. Doing so is possible, but one would have to fabricate a cradle or adaptor to hold the engine. Some on the club have done this. There are some K & M series single cylinder Blocks in Deeres and maybe others that can accept both the A series pans and the flanged pans like use on our Simplicity tractors.As I indicated, the Kohler horizontal twins have all, to my experiene, had the same pan footprint. I have personally taken them out of Simplicity, Deere, Cadet, Gilson/Lawnboy/Ford, and Wheel Horse tractors.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
SmilinSam

There were alot of Magnum twins used in generators too. A Soverign style wouldnt need a PTO shaft out the front, so a tapered shaft for a Generator wouldnt matter inn this case. I have a friend who has a DA 917 repowered with a M20 from a generator. Fit right in place of the KT.

I have a single cylinder M16 that was spec for a Gravely or something, it had no PTO shaft at all. Crank was cut flush with the block , drilled and tapped. So its entirely possible that there are M18's or 20's out there with the same setup.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • SonOfCreepfeed
    • abu507
    • AllisChalmers716
  • Today's Birthdays

    No users celebrating today
  • Recent Status Updates

    • Bubba1997

      Bubba1997

      Searching for a Sleeve hitch and breaking plow and other equipment if price is right and also a deck for a B1 thank you 
      · 3 replies
    • Dean McFadden

      Dean McFadden

      Good morning peeps! I’m always searching for helpful information with my AC collection. Hope to find out new information and pass on my own experience in restoration. Here are some pics of my babies. I’m still looking for front rims for the 410 so yesterday I put the 310 wheels on took it for a drive. Working pretty good but still needs some carb work. Gotta get the 310 running next. Have a great day!😁
       

      · 1 reply
  • Adverts

×