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AC 410 Loader Upgrades....

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GLPointon

I've got that project itch again...

But this one is a 10 point Upgrade to my AC410/Loader tractor. This 410 & the loader was restored last year and since then I've come up with this "wish list" of improvements to do:

1. Upgrade to 16hp engine

2. Remove the Electric Lift (not needed on dedicated loader tractor)

3. Replace front axle pivot bushings

4. Replace steering bushings

5. Upgrade the "poorman's power steering" with heavier rated bearings

6. Rebuild the "Ross" steering gearbox (a bit sloppy)

7. Replace fuel tank (leak on seam)

8. More frame clearance for PTO belt to hydro pump

9. Bigger Ag tires

10. Upgrade loader leveling system pivots to handle more weight. New hydraulic cylinders will lift more than levelers will handle...NOT for long sm01

This upgrade will make it a good worker for yrs to come...

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Talntedmrgreen

Sounds good! Little and big things...they will all make a difference, I'm sure.

Lemme tell ya guys...if you haven't seen this rig in person, you need to. I'm SURE it will be at the 100th anniv GOTO next year in LaPorte. ;)

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GLPointon

This is the 16HP Kohler engine I got from our VP Mr. Osenga

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Out with the 10hp...This engine runs great so it's going in another RBT waiting out on the "deadline"

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Looks like this 16HP Kohler was a factory rebuild.

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I installed all new gaskets/seals in it and gave it a quick paint job.

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I removed the Electric Lift I added after the tractor restoration. I wont need it now that this is a dedicated loader tractor.

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Removed the front axle...below is one of the pivot bushings...it had a bit of slop sm00

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above is the steering pivot bushing (in front) and the new one in back, I had to buy in 2 pcs. I used the bronze bushing vs the harder (left) one. I think it's better that the bushing wear vs the pivot assy...

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next I removed the Ross steering gearbox. was getting very sloppy...

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One of the bearings ate up the plastic retainer. and these rebuild kits are over $100...so I went to my semi-local tractor boneyard and found another one with good bearings...AND a new fuel tank that dosen't leak sm01

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Got it all cleaned/adjusted/thrust bearing added/painted and ready to install

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I cleaned and lightly sanded the new gas tank and gave it a coat of clearcoat.

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drive out the old bushing...Install the new ones...

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Install the axle and the pivot pin

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Next I'm gonna upgrade the "poormans power steering" I installed last year by replacing the thrust bearings (on right) with the bearing on the left which has more rollers and holds more grease in the carrier...

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and also added the "bike inner tube dust boot" as suggested by Phandad's prior post.

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Installed the Ross steering gearbox and the linkages

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That is about half the upgrade list...so there will be more to come sm01

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GLPointon

Not sure Ron, I know that the willys Jeeps used then as well as many other vehicles, larger versions...I hope!! they dont seem safe enough to use doing 70mph in a 2 ton vehicle XX(

quote:Originally posted by Ronald Hribar

Is that the steering box used on a Vega?


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GLPointon

Carl I ordered these in quanity from McMasters before my B12 project so I dont have their # but the bearing box has p/n: TC1220-HLA/O-5E 006093400

quote:Originally posted by CarlH

How about source and part number for the bearing used for the improved Poor Man's Power Steering?Thanks.


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Steve72

Glad youre on another project Greg! Since I am a maintenance "process" guy---I'm curious (about things that matter not to normal people) if the loader is getting in your way... Looking forward to following your progress!!

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GLPointon

I think I only have jobs 1,8,9,10 left to complete. But number 10 is a biggie.I got the new 16hp engine in but found a problem...I asked for help on the forum and here is what I did.

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The front shaft for the Electric PTO on the 10hp (below) is 1 1/8" dia. and the 16hp is only 1"dia.(above) I found a spacer collar on E-bay for only a few bucks that worked great.

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also the exhaust outlet on the 10hp is 3/4" dia and the 16hp (below) is 1" dia...so being a gasman, I made an adaptor from gas pipe fittings to go from the 1" engine to the 3/4" muffler

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got the PTO mounted and the mule drive on...

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Below you can see where I cut some of my sub-frame away to give the pto belt more clearance...it was rubbing a tiny bit causing it to wear faster...

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Now for the most important repair/upgrade:After I finished this resto last year, while using it, a bucket cylinder "blew a head" caused by a stuck relief valve causing sever overpressureXX(

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I bought a new pair of 2" dia cylinders to replace the 1 1/2" dia damaged one.

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Below; the new cyl is too wide to fold down into the bracket

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I had to widen the brackets (below) to accomodate the wider cylinders.

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As a bonus the cylinders improved the digging/scooping power of the loader ALOT.But...below is the problem...the weakest link is the leveling system pivots. During some heavy digging they bent very bad (thats why the paint is popping off)..

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but here is the permanant fix:

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Now these pivots Won't bend...I'm sure of it sm01

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I took her for a test spin & cant wait to get in the dirt & really push it sm01

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The last thing on my wish list is bigger rear Ag tires...they are coming soonSorry this was so long...but I hope you enjoyed the show sm01

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GLPointon

This is the site where I found the shaft adaptor to put the 1 1/8" dia Electric PTO on an engine with a 1" dia shaft. (I needed this to put the PTO from a 10hp Kohler on a 16hp) sm01

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=370845682029#ht_1888wt_758

may be a good seller to save...he has about every size shaft adaptor ever needed.

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