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bowhunt4life

12hp vs 16hp

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bowhunt4life

I am debating swapping a 12hp for a 16hp in my B212. Why? I am planning on putting a my 38" HD tiller on the B212.

I am not sure if the 12hp will have enough umph to power the tiller. What do you folks think? Is the 12hp enough or am I better off swapping in a 16hp engine?

I welcome your thoughts on this.

Chris

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ReedS

Chris, I just this fall added extensions to my 36" tiller, so it is now closer to 48". My 13hp powered 2110 had more than enough ooph to handle the widened tiller. I would think a 12 would be quite comfortable running your tiller, unless it's a mosquito fogger! I'd say run it and if your not happy with it put the 16 in.

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Talntedmrgreen

I've never felt a tiller pulled hard on an engine. I do all my tilling with 10's, and they have plenty of power left for more tines in the ground. I do prefer high rpm though. The 36" tillers make flour out of soil in one pass, with low ground speed and high rpm, plus, there's never any cooling concerns. I feel the tiller works far less, when it's turning fast. Simplicity did a nice job when they designed their machines for this chore.

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acken

Chris, for years I tilled with a Big Ten with hi-lo. It handled it just fine in either range. I now use an ugly 3212 with mostly AC yellow sheet metal. The biggest differance is now I have a six speeed from 7016 in it. This is much easier to change ranges. I am running between 1/2 to 3/4 throttle.

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Talntedmrgreen

Yup...a loaded blower or mower deck will pull hard on even the 16's. Looking forward to trying that on the T-16 this week...should have a foot or better ont he ground by Friday they say.

I did find a machine that a loaded down, leaf mulching deck won't bog down though (even with the vac going too). The 7790 makes my deck beg for mercy...I love it, till I start to smell burning belts. 666

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acfarmer

I don't know where you fellows are tilling or what type of soil you have but where I'm located one can never have too much HP when using a tiller especially when you want to till at maximum depth.My 40HP

Allis Chalmers 5040 diesel has all it wants and then some with a 5ft

King Kutter tiller,my Craftsman FF 18 with a 4ft PTO driven tiller has come up short on power when tilling at maximum depth.I use an AC

710 with a 36" tiller to cultivate between the rows at about 2 inches deep,I'd be forever working the garden up with it.Also if you're tilling in cover crops that calls for extra horses under the hood.

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bowhunt4life

Thanks for the input. I am going to try the 12hp this spring and the 38" HD tiller when I till up my clover plot for the deer and replant.

I'll be looking for a 16hp if one pops up.

Thanks,

Chris

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mikeman

Tiller usually stop(belts slips) before engine bogs.

quote:The 7790 makes my deck beg for mercy...I love it, till I start to smell burning belts. id="quote">
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You know it. Maybe I can get the 42 inch blower to bog down my 920H.}:)

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Talntedmrgreen
Originally posted by mikeman

Tiller usually stop(belts slips) before engine bogs.

quote:
id="quote">I've seen a youtube video of this from a member (or previous member), of his 7790 boggin with a 42" blower and rollin coal, but I always figured that long belt would suffer or slip first. Wish I could find that now.

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dentwizz

Having just cleared my immediate block with my HB112(16hp) this year and the 64LL last year on the same 42" later model blower but 12hp, there is a difference but the 12 does not scream inadequate by any stretch. The 9 and 10hp did have some lack by comparison. On the 42" deck the 12hp has never had a sense of bogging where the belts would have supported more torque. Not sure on the 48"(still rebuilding that).

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Marty-MN

I till using a 620 with a 48" tiller and a Ariens GT17 with a 48" tiller just as deep as they will go they do not work while tilling. The 620 is a lot better in hard dry soil and power is not an issue.

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BLT

Keep in mind some of the early walk behinds with tines as big in diameter as the mounted ones but only 20-24 inches wide were handled quite handsomely by a measely 3-1/2 HP Briggs without its governor barely being ruffled.:D

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acken

I forgot to mention in my earlier post, along with others; I have never used my tiller in unworked soil. I always plow it first with moldboard plow, that will make a big differance in power use.

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