garyb Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 So my 5212.5 has been touchy on starting, the switch has seen better days. Well the switch finally went, no click nothing, so I put a new one in it and now I get a click from under the seat, I think the solenoid and what ever else is there. But still will not turn over. Any suggestions? My guess is the solenoid but The switch was definitely shot the tractor was not kept inside so the weather ruined the switch, all corroded and needed finessed to find the off spot and also to get it to start
GrincheyOne Posted May 27, 2014 Posted May 27, 2014 Gary, I had a solenoid (from my 4212G), that turned out to be intermittent, in addition to a funky key switch, and a questionable nanny switch (1 of 3), for the longest time I used an ole screwdriver across the solenoid contacts. 'Til I discovered that grounding the solenoid terminal w/ the (yellow/green) wires (coming from the I/C module, took the "nanny" switches (3) out of the equation! (Don't tell OSHA!) lol BTW - Dura-Last Solenoid from Auto-Zone $29, 20A breaker $9.99. Cheers, Wayne Most likely Nanny to be malfunctioning is the PTO, the button on the micro switch, develops a cavity , over time!
garyb Posted May 27, 2014 Author Posted May 27, 2014 Thanks Guy's I will give it a try. And again thanks for accepting me into this GREAT group Gary
garyb Posted June 12, 2014 Author Posted June 12, 2014 Update on tractor, I did jump the post on the solenoid and it turned over. But it smoked under engine cover from what I could tell from around the flywheel. the magneto?.
Ronald Hribar Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 I am guessing you have wrong switch Probably smoked ignition coil and safety switch
garyb Posted June 12, 2014 Author Posted June 12, 2014 I might have, I replaced the switch with one that had the same pin configuration as mine had off,run,start positions 3 position switch with 5 pins out the back, my harness plugged right in to it. It was not a simplicity switch, (a universal switch)
mudpatrol1 Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 not all over the counter indak switches are wired the same,i had to repin the one on my 4212 i had. even though it looked the same,it didnt work until i repinned the connector
RayS Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 Most all of them are 5 pins and there are 7 pins as well. Not all the 5 pins are the same. They have letters near the pins to identify them. If you didn`t get the correct one you more than likely fried the ignition coil as Ron stated.
garyb Posted June 12, 2014 Author Posted June 12, 2014 that sux, I just looked for my old one and I think I threw it out. Now the big question. Dose anybody know what one I need for the 5212.5? my switch was so corroded on the back nothing was visible as far as identification and I'm not sure what was on the side the housing was pretty bad. I guess lesson learned
BLT Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 What is your product number? It should start out with 169xxxx.
rokon2813 Posted June 12, 2014 Posted June 12, 2014 1686734 Looks like it fits all the 5212.5 models. It fits actually 2300+ models of Simplicity I would still check your 169xxxx number to be sure, since the description says 6 pin
garyb Posted June 13, 2014 Author Posted June 13, 2014 I am unable to find the product number under the seat, it's gone
RayS Posted June 13, 2014 Posted June 13, 2014 Looks like the tractor was made from 1987 - 1990. It used the Briggs 404707 engine. They had 3 different Mfg. No. in the time frame. 1691175, 1691238, and 1691473. This should be the wiring diagram for your tractor. Notice the letters on the switch. Pretty much every Simplicity with a Briggs in that I have owned, worked on or parted out has that switch. If you got one like this. More than likely you magneto is fried.This should be the correct parts manual.http://bsintek.basco.com/BriggsDocumentDisplay/heCBEN8aoO0rE5CGh5kbp796Dq.pdf
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