powersrp Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Any body have any ideas on breaking a bead so I can put a tube in it? Tires are pretty soft so can't be to rough with them. Will get new tires next year but for now gotta use what I have.
fishnwiz Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I myself have stood on the tires while holding on to a wall.
steve-wis Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I usually put dish soap all around the bead, then tap a flat blade screwdriver carefully between rim and tire all around. Usually then a tire iron working around the bead will break it loose. If not, you can lay a board across the tire next to the rim and drive something heavy up the board, like front tire of car, to break it loose. Of course, bringing it to the garage is always an alternative, usually about 5 bucks to pop it loose, put in the tube, and have it ready to go. Steve
Marty-MN Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 There is a little tool called a tube deflater that you put on in place of a valve cap hook on the air hose and it creates a slight vacuum in the tire and helps break the bead. works on tube and tubeless tires. http://yourtireshopsupply.com/product/339/6108-tube-deflator-di6108
Mike Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 piece of flat cutting edge stock on the edge of rim and drive you car up it, we use a forklift
RayS Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Last tube I had installed. The tire shop done it. Since I had to get the tube there. They only charged $5 for labor. Cheap labor to me. I never mess with tires, unless I am burning them off the rims. Excellent neighbor and skeeter control.
fishnwiz Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 Glad I don't live next door to you! 5 dollars IS a bargin...near me it is 10.00 plus the tube which I think is too much to pay.
Oz Posted June 22, 2014 Posted June 22, 2014 I often use up my supply of cuss words changing tires/tubes. Changed my motorcycle tires for years. Sure was nice when they came along with tubeless tires.
huffy Posted June 23, 2014 Posted June 23, 2014 Just lay the tire down underneath your truck and put a bottle jack on top of the tire and under your draw-tite hitch.
ss74nova Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Here's a youtube video that may help, showing how to change a lawnmower tire. Just be careful putting the last bead on that you don't knick or tear it with a screwdiver. A wider flat rounded edge tool works better here just like others have said. Putting the first bead on the rim you can usually just angle & spin the tire right onto the rim without any tools. Use lots of dishsoap on the new beads too. My 725 had very wide tires on the front & the above method wasn't working too well so I put the rim & tire in my Harbor Freight 20 ton press. Bring the press down until it is on the tire right near the edge of the rim & press it down. Broke the beads with ease as they were stuck to the rim bad.
Robert Kehoe Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I just did one. I hit it with a hammer as close to the rim without hitting the rim. Worked on the first blow. I also took the valve stem out first.
huffy Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 You can get a tire changer from HF for $40; less with a coupon. They work well. I use mine all the time.
Talntedmrgreen Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 quote:Originally posted by huffyYou can get a tire changer from HF for $40; less with a coupon. They work well. I use mine all the time. id="quote">id="quote">Ditto...everything from the little baby tires on the front of my Serf to the 26" on my Legacy. I tried lots of tricks before that tool, and most required a plethora of vulgar language to be effective. I love that tool...paid for itself over and over. Besides, I'm in no condition to drive to the tire shop most Saturday aftenoon's anyway. )
RayS Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Originally posted by Talntedmrgreenquote: id="quote">If you start drinking at 9 am? You could always drop them off before 9 am, go pick up your beer at the liquor store and they would be done by the time you got back to pick them up:D.
timflury Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 Lots of soapy water, a 4lb. sledge and a flatbar. Once you get the bead broke, then use your tire spoons, and lots more soapy water.
mbinwi Posted June 25, 2014 Posted June 25, 2014 I also got the HF changer, and it works great. You just need a sturdy place to mount it. I mount mine to a heavy steel welding table, that is held in place with dowels drilled into the apron slab of my garage. Mike.
leeave96 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 This year has been the year from H@# for tractor breakdowns on my fleet, including FLAT tires. If I have a really bad tire bead seemly welded to the rim, I have a 2x8 x about 3 ft. I lay it on the tire next to the rim and drive on it like it's a ramp. Works every time. However, faced with a bunch of flat tires - or really tires that just leak down all the time, I decided to tube any leakers. I have done this with brute force and screw drivers and pry bars, as well as had a tire shop make the fix. Problem around my neck of the woods, no one wants to mess with a small tires anymore. Sooooooo - I got a 25 percent coupon from Harbor Freight and bought their small and large tire changers this spring. I think I paid $100 for them total. I bolted them to a piece of 3/4 inch thick plywood, about a 3 x 4 foot. I have done 4 front tires and 1 rear tire. I've got 3 more rear tires to do and 4 more front tires! My Landlord DLX has 3 tubes now and the 4th one is coming soon. To hold down the tire tools when using them, I just have one of my teen boys stand on it. The HF tire changer works, but at times has been somewhat frustrating. I'm glad I got it, hope I don't have to use it often and would recommend them for garden tractor tires.
RayS Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 quote:Originally posted by timfluryLots of soapy water, a 4lb. sledge and a flatbar. Once you get the bead broke, then use your tire spoons, and lots more soapy water. id="quote">id="quote">Sounds expensive and exhausting.
timflury Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 I can bust the bead in less than 10 minutes, and that's the nasty rusty ones.:D
huffy Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 Last time I looked at TSC, they wanted about as much for a tire spoon as it costs to get the HF tire changer. I find the changer much easier, especially for doing front tires.
mudpatrol1 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 i have had VERY good luck using slime,saves alot of swearin and sweatin.i have mounted tires the old fashion way plenty of times. try dismounting model t tires that have been on for 50 plus years... those wheels are just rings like heavy equiptment.sometimes your the windshield,sometimes your the bug:(
rokon2813 Posted June 26, 2014 Posted June 26, 2014 When I get the ambition to dig into my tire pile, I usually do 20 or so at a time. For the rears, I break the bead with the Harbor freight tire machine, then take them off with spoons or screw drivers. For the fronts, I break the beads in my bench vise. Then spoons or screw drivers. I do have decent spoons, including the large 3 foot pro one, and a good tire hammer if I need it. I've done so many, I actually find it quickest and easiest with 1 pry bar and 1 big screw driver.
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