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John_RI
I'm going to try to up-grade the steering gear in my ‘67 landlord (aka: B12) with the steering gear from a Simplicity 725 (b-1). Does anyone have any insight or experience with this change? Thanks, John(ri)

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SmilinSam
You could do that but it would actually be a down grade because the steering gears on the tractors after the 64 Landlords were improved to make steering a little easier. The early used a pinion keyed to the steer pin shaft and a round steering gear. The newer used a one piece cast pinion/ steer pin shaft and a pie shaped steering gear which made for somewhat easier steering, or so the theory goes.

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SmilinSam
Howdy Smilin Sam-and John, I did this change a couple of years ago and it worked out great. But like Sam states the tractor will steer a little harder but to me it seemed to give me more steering control as long as the tractor was moving other wise it was for sure harder to steer at near stop speeds. I have found the older sytem to be more durible then the newer type like your landlord has. The bolt holes should already be there for the older setup at least my tractors was so it was just a basic change over. My 1964 Landlord still has the original steering gears and they are still in great shape. Hope this helps, >>->happyjack<-<< P.S. One thing everyone should do if they don't is to keep the serk grease fittings greased for the steering gears and bushings after about 15 hours and keep the gears clear of dirt and lub them also.

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John_RI
Thanks Smilin Sam & >happyjack<, I've adjusted the steering gear on the landlord many times ( the adjustment to remove the backlash is great!) but it was always short-lived. The set-up from the 725 just seems so much more robust that I thought I'd give it a shot. I'm glad to hear that the bolt holes should line up Jack - thanks for that.

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Kent
John, Unless I'm mistaken you will also change the steering gear ratio from something like 3:1 or 3.5:1 to 5:1 ... In addition to it being stiffer/harder, you'll have to turn the steering wheel further for the same effect. Kent

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JimV
Hi John, if you want another steering gear for your landlord you can come down and help yourself to one off a soon to be doner tractor which is one of my sovereign frames. no charge Jim V.

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