CaptinStifles 1 Posted October 10, 2016 Hello everyone i have a simplicity 2010 landlord and the spark is weak. The spark plug, magneto, condenser are all new. The points are clean. I rewired all of the wires that had to do with the spark plug or ignition switch. I set the points to .020 and there was no spark. I set it to .005 and i had a week spark. could a battery with a low charge be the problem? if so what else could be the issue? Any help is appreciated! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tarheel 77 Posted October 10, 2016 The only part your battery plays is in turning the engine at start up. The ignition system is fully contained on the engine with only the key switch being outside and it grounds the ignition to kill the spark. Meaning that you can remove the engine from the tractor and start it with a pull rope if you want. If I were you, I would trace the wire from the switch to the engine and disconnect it. This removes the chance that the switch has a short. Now check the spark. If its better, replace the switch. Next, remove the spark plug and turn the engine by hand until the points close. Take a dollar bill and place it between the points and pull it through them. The reason for this is that the points sometimes have a film on them and will not make good contact until cleaned. You can use carb cleaner or such if you like as well. Now turn the engine by hand until the points have fully opened then check the gap. If you still have a weak spark, replace the new condenser with the old one and check for spark again. The above is the way I start out with a spark problem. Things that I have failed to mention are basic. The area around the points should be clean and dry (oil free) and if the points mounting surface looks rusty or varnished, then clean with sand paper. Neither the points or the condenser can work without a good ground. As a last resort, you might look at an Atom II ignition module. They don't cost very much and they take the place of the points. (Leave your points in place on the engine thought) So you no longer have to worry about points going bad or getting dirty or even wet. Hope this helps. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sandyhillbill 12 Posted October 10, 2016 Also check the gap between the flywheel and the mag.--be sure it is rust free and set close-- I use a thin post card placed between to set the gap. You could also check the magnet on the flywheel to be sure it has not lost it's magnetism--very rare for this to be the case but I remember one time many years ago--if memory serves me it had no spark. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptinStifles 1 Posted October 10, 2016 OK so i set the gap on the magneto with a stander business card. I will disconnect the ignition switch and ill clean the gaps and see if those help. Thanks for your help! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brettw 1,127 Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) I asked about a new plug, but see you have replaced it. I would still try another. I had fits one time, and it was a brand new plug that ended up being the culprit. Edited October 10, 2016 by Brettw Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptinStifles 1 Posted October 11, 2016 OK ill try using a spark plug that i know works. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrSteele 492 Posted October 11, 2016 If you read the instructions with your new mag, they would have told you how to space the mag/flywheel gap. Using the instruction sheet, fold so that 3 thicknesses of paper can be used for the spacing. With the magnet under the mag, loosen it and allow the mag to slide to the magnet, tighten the bolts and remove the paper. Weak spark is usually either that gap is too wide or a bad condenser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptinStifles 1 Posted October 19, 2016 Would anyone know the correct condenser for a briggs and stratton 243431 123 01? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BLT 718 Posted October 20, 2016 298060 is the Briggs condensor P/N. Inthe downloads section there is a parts list you canb download. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bkassulke 25 Posted October 20, 2016 Have you checked the gap on your spark plug? I ran into an briggs engine I worked on for a gentleman that he had put a new spark plug in it and gapped it for a similar gap for an GM Hei distributer and the ignition system had a tough time jumping the gap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Simplicity7013H 95 Posted October 20, 2016 I usually try to adjust the points little by little until you get spark. I would also try to re gap the magneto and check condenser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bill725 1,173 Posted October 20, 2016 Consider changing to Magnetron magneto for $40 and repolarize the flywheel and you will never have to deal with this problem ever again. My engine starts easier and runs better. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
theniteowl 29 Posted October 22, 2016 The thing that has most often caused weak spark on mine have been points that needed cleaning. I have swapped out the points for electronic modules on two engines with good results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites