jackcobb Posted March 9, 2002 Share Posted March 9, 2002 A real good 9020, that will go out and mow for two hours with no repair or breakdowns can bring $3500. Loaders are scarce, they all seem to be in excess of $1500 when I inquire and they are always sold. Backhoes alone maybe even more. There was a 720 last year with a loader in Tenn on this site for sale, missing the manifold (you couldn't even hear it run)and they wouldn't take $5200 for it. It did sell. So I feel $6000 is fair for both parties. Just my 2 cents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermax_paul Posted March 9, 2002 Share Posted March 9, 2002 I'd have to agree with Jack. I might add that backhoes are very expensive. A Kelley B600 hoe runs $3200 new. The Brantly 6' backhoe is very hard to come by. $6000 seems to be a fair price. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poates Posted March 9, 2002 Author Share Posted March 9, 2002 I'm currently negotiating with a fellow locally who has a 9020 with under a 1000 hours on it that also has a simplicity loader (ark) and brantley hoe. I'm thinking I finally found my turn to have a powermax, but he wants in excess of $6000 for it. Ouch. We're still neighborly, but having a friendly debate. Given the challenge and risk of maintaining these machines (I know what I'm getting myself into), that's high, even if it does have the hoe. Which one of us is crazy? Has the collector mentality creeped in this much? Or, should I stop whining and pay the freight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsjabs Posted March 9, 2002 Share Posted March 9, 2002 You really need to decide what you are going to use the loader and hoe for. Little jobs in loose stuff it will be fine, get it into hard clay and the like and you will be wanting more machine. Remember the 446 and 646 Case machines, they were nice but when it came to digging and such they were little more than toys. It wasen't so much the attachments fault as they were Davis brand, but the tractors were so light the hoe would move the tractor all around and the loader would barly make it over the side of a pickup. I have a 5220 Duetz-Allis diesel tractor with the 435 loader and I recently bought a near new Kubota (Woods built)backhoe attachment for it. It is about a perfect size machine for little jobs, no yard rash as a skid steer makes, and it will load over a 7 1/2 high dumptruck. My only wish is that it had 5-10 more horsepower, maybe someday I will score a 5230. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powermax_paul Posted March 9, 2002 Share Posted March 9, 2002 Tim, As a remodeling contractor, I use my 4041 with loader and backhoe on the job frequently. The advantage (as you say) over a skidsteer with a backhoe is the yard trashing a skidsteer does. I realize my machine is not as powerful and can not do the job as fast as a skidsteer, but am willing to accept that given the added versatility. In hard clay, the loader leaves a little to be desired. I think it would do fine if it had teeth on the bucket. I have the Danco loader which has a heavier frame than the ARK loader. The backhoe does just fine in hard clay. Horsepower is really not a problem as I'm normally at about 1/3 throttle when using the hoe. Even then, there's no appreciable drawdown on the engine unless you catch a tree root with the bucket. These machines are not made to work day in and day out in an industrial capacity. I do think however that some of the newer compacts that are being used (includin JD and Kubota) are lacking in weight and frame strength for how they are being used. There, the powermax tractors are somewhat superior. These compacts may have power, but the power does little good without weight to give them traction. If one is purchasing a compact tractor/loader/backhoe one must realize that's what he is buying, a "COMPACT" TLB. Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonetteP Posted March 9, 2002 Share Posted March 9, 2002 I try not to be indiferent, but look up the same type of attatchments on a new tractor. This is a tried and true unit. You indicated that there was some awareness of problems. If you Know what the problem is, you can fix it. Many people have problems with the charging circut. the cure, have it rewound at a motor shop and put in a Kohler regulator/rectifier. We have two units that are currently running this system. If you have any questions, just e-mail us. I would not be afraid of this unit if it has had proper oil changes and maintenance. Our grass mowing units hour gauge quit at over 1800 hours. Since then we have only rebuilt it once. It currently is our snowblowing tractor. Many more hours last year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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