Richard Ind Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I was wondering if it is possible to change the wheel spacing on a simplicity / ac tractor? I am looking for a minimum inside width of 30" for both front and rear wheels so I can straddle 30" growing beds. If it is possible which model(s) would be best suited for this modification? Thanks, Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractors N' Football Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 You could probably get away with a bolt on spacer if you can find one small enough to fit the lug pattern. A slip on might work if you get longer studs. I would bet most of the sovereigns, landlords, or maybe even a Baron might be able to pull it off. I've been lucky enough to not have to pull the rear wheels off my Landlord yet so I couldn't tell you if the studs are replaceable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Bear Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, Richard Ind said: I was wondering if it is possible to change the wheel spacing on a simplicity / ac tractor? I am looking for a minimum inside width of 30" for both front and rear wheels so I can straddle 30" growing beds. If it is possible which model(s) would be best suited for this modification? Thanks, Richard How much extra width do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhanDad Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 As said above, you could use a spacer for the rear wheels, probably a standard dual wheel spacer would get you enough clearance. If not, a custom one. (BTW the Simplicity tractors use wheel bolts rather than studs for the rear wheels). The problem is the front. Not sure how you'd do it - either have to modify the front spindles so the stock wheel was way outboard or some extended hub that would accept the bearing in there normal position. With the latter idea, I'd be concerned about the 3/4" axle spindle, I don't think it's heavy enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ind Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Thanks for the input and ideas. I which there was a way to make the front end wheel spacing easily wider and then back to the standard spacing. It seems I'm always looking to do odd things with power equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talntedmrgreen Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 It can be done! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnwiz Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spi Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 You'd need a near vertical hill to roll that bird over. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brettw Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Betcha it corners like it's on rails.................................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishnwiz Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Josh has all the ingredients to buiId himself one of those 700 series row crop tractors for himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talntedmrgreen Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 52 minutes ago, fishnwiz said: Josh has all the ingredients to buiId himself one of those 700 series row crop tractors for himself. Except the talent...oh, and the time. ...and the tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Ind Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 Thanks for the picture, I see it can be done :). I only need to bump out the wheels to about 34" wheel tred width. I've seen alot of 2 wheel tractors with extensions to make a 34" tred width to straddle 30" growing beds. 4 wheel tractors seem less common at this bed width. Most are set at 42" and larger and are cultivating or compact tractors. Because of my lot location I have short row length of 72 to 100 ft so a larger tractor seems impractical do to the area at the end of the beds required to turn a larger tractor around. Thanks again for all the comments and ideas! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 On 3/29/2018 at 3:00 PM, Talntedmrgreen said: It can be done! THAT'S AWESOME!!!! Love it. now I want to see one that was lifted and has like 36" Mudders on it! lol... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacker Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Id like to know if anyone here knows the Rear wheel Lug pattern or bolt circle measurments... I have a simp. Sovereign 3012 I think its a 5 lug wheel ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhanDad Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 x 4-1/2" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wwbragg Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 58 minutes ago, zacker said: I want to see one that was lifted and has like 36" Mudders Like this?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwt Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 (edited) On 3/29/2018 at 11:45 AM, Richard Ind said: Thanks for the input and ideas. I which there was a way to make the front end wheel spacing easily wider and then back to the standard spacing. It seems I'm always looking to do odd things with power equipment. To do what you are talking about, I think that the most practical thing to do would be to fab up another front axle and drag link. Then you can swap those out when you want a narrower front. Start with a stock axle assembly including tires. Cut the axle and add stock to both sides to get desired width. I think it's very doable, and the swap between axle assemblies would require the removal of two bolts. Not much harder than installing a deck. Edit: I'm thinking Sovereign here. For the rear, I think it would be easy to use a set of narrow rims towards the inside, weld another rim directly to to those to mount your tire on, then cut the inner part of the outside rim out to access the bolts that hold the bugger in place. Probably cut out the inner bead sealing surface of the inner rim to give clearance for crops. Light duty, and don't get stupid. Longer levers make extra stress. Edited November 21, 2019 by kwt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacker Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 18 hours ago, wwbragg said: Like this?? Exactly! lol,lol,lol...thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zacker Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 18 hours ago, PhanDad said: 5 x 4-1/2" great! thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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