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1950Allis

So I have all the correct springs, belts and everything buttoned back up.  Now that I have that done, new issues have popped up.  The shaft comming out of the right side of the tractor on the bevel gear box as you are sitting on the seat. When the tractor is running should that shaft be always spinning ?  Mine spins fine until I push the clutch in then it will slow and sometimes stop and start.  Not sure if this is new or not.  Guess I never paid attention.  I know this next part is not good but unless you very slowly release the clutch it will pop a wheelie like a dragster.  When I place it in 3rd gear and release the clutch it will stall.  So I went from 1 extreme to the next.  So suggestions  ?  

Thank you.

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Chris727

There is a slip clutch for the drive belt to reduce jerky operation and "wheelies." There is a nylon washer as well as a nylon "strip bearing" which more than likely they have become worn out and need to be replaced. 

 

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PhanDad
13 hours ago, 1950Allis said:

When the tractor is running should that shaft be always spinning ?

The SHAFT should always be turning (same solid shaft that's sticking out the left side of the BGB) when the engine's running.  

But as Chris stated above, the pulley is "clutched".  Many pics of the clutched pulley:

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PhanDad

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I believe the nylon "strip bearing" (AX) can be seen in pic4 above; I don't see the nylon thrust washer (AW).   Maybe @Chris727 can confirm.  It's been 4 years since I abandoned that pulley.   

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  PS - I think part AY is mis-labeled - it's what I'd call the pulley cover.  

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1950Allis

Well now here's a couple more questions.  My clutch on the areas in the pics does not have any of those gaps. If they are to be there that could explain part of the problem.  In my books I bought I am unable to find anything on this part.

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1950Allis

Guess what I really need is to find a knowledgeable person close by me to take a look at this as my fear is that I am starting to think this has been cobbled together more than what I thought

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13 minutes ago, 1950Allis said:

My clutch on the areas in the pics does not have any of those gaps.

In the pics above, the bolts that hold the clutch together are loose, so how tight those gaps (or lack of) become when the bolts are tight, I can't answer.  But based on this pic before the pulley was removed from the BGB shaft, there appears to be a slight gap at the outer edge:

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And I would think there must be enough of a gap on the inside to allow the unbolted pulley halve (AV) to rotate.  

 

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MrSteele

I just ordered the strip bearing and nylon washer from Sandy Lake yesterday, so I am assuming they are still available.

Count the springs on your governor. "4 or 5" says you are not sure. There are at least 2, with some folks adding a 3rd one on the throttle linkage. I never understood why the third was added, since the throttle cable moves the link positively. I have seen them on all sorts of toys, though

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