Jump to content

Unofficial Home of Old Simplicity & Allis-Chalmers Garden Tractors

Tarheel

stuck splined deck pulley

Recommended Posts

Tarheel

  Picked up a 7117 with a 48 inch deck late last summer. After a round or 3 looking to find a short (PO had bypassed the breaker and installed an inline fuse) Unpluged the harness at the rectifier and no more blown fuses but I've yet to pull the engine and see what's messed up inside.

 Mowing a couple of weeks ago and noticed it was only mowing with the center blade. Covers still on the deck so had to load up and take it home. When I pulled it down, the belt was off but not broken. Just chewed up on one side. Idler pulley bracket was bent and rusted. Cleaned that up and got it straight but there was some noise in the spindle bearings so I started to remove the center first. But the pulley won't come off the shaft. I have hammered till the bolt is ruined. I let it set a couple of days soaking in WD-40 and no change.

 No good way to clamp and hold in a vise, can't use a puller without ruining the pulley (to the tune of well over 100 bucks and not in stock where I checked) I don't like the thoughts of using heat unless I have to. Even thought of welding a plate or washer over the top and installing a grease zerk to see if I could move it that way. Soaking in acid to try and break the rust ( would have worked much better before the oil) .

 What do you guys do to free one like this ? Thanks

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
fishnwiz

Had same issue and after bending the pulley after heat / hammer/oil ect....ended up pulling the complete arbor by pulling off the blade and unbolting the ring around the arbor. Replacement arbors do come up used on Craigslist and Ebay or ask through the classifieds on this site.

Good luck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kwt
31 minutes ago, fishnwiz said:

Had same issue and after bending the pulley after heat / hammer/oil ect....ended up pulling the complete arbor by pulling off the blade and unbolting the ring around the arbor. Replacement arbors do come up used on Craigslist and Ebay or ask through the classifieds on this site.

Good luck.

Pull the arbor and I bet you can get the pulley off with a great big press.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wwbragg

WD-40 is a joke.  PB Blaster is a little better, but this is a job for Aerokroil.  The guy in the following video uses candle wax but what ever you use, you will have to apply heat.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=how+to+remove+stuck+pulley&docid=607993318741181674&mid=F478B7E903797AAA1D6BF478B7E903797AAA1D6B&view=detail&FORM=VIREHT 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wwbragg
1 hour ago, SmilinSam said:

small press

 Like this??

6 ton A-Frame Bench Shop Press $80 at HF.  Father's day is this Sunday - - - - "Oh happy day"

 

 

image_25165.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wwbragg

Let me see if I understand - - - - You cant remove the spindle without removing the pulley and the pulley is rusted on the spindle shaft.  So the press shown above is not going to work- - - too small.  

You need to support the pulley with angle iron (think bed frames) AT THE PULLEY'S HUB.  Hold the pulley high enough so that the deck is a couple of inches off the floor. Now you have a pile of 4x4 blocks fore and aft of the deck with two pieces of angle iron across them, holding the deck off of the floor by the center of the pulley.  Next,  follow the heating procedure in the video link above.  Take care not to direct the heat to the shaft but to the pulley's hub.  Using a flat punch, start tapping on the shaft.  Reheat the hub as needed and keep tapping on the center shaft.  Remember that song by the Isley Brothers, Shout???   (Man do I hat that stupid song)  Keep tapping while you sing, "A little bit harder now,  A little bit harder now.

 

"PS:  Make sure there is no rolled pin or something holding it on before you do anything.

Edited by wwbragg
PS

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
SmilinSam
1 hour ago, wwbragg said:

 Like this??

6 ton A-Frame Bench Shop Press $80 at HF.  Father's day is this Sunday - - - - "Oh happy day"

 

 

image_25165.jpg

This one is a little better. More room for longer items. I looked all 3 they offer over a couple months ago and bought this one..the 12 ton. The largest one was overkill for my needs. All three are better than the antique crank type press I was using....

33497_W3.jpg

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wwbragg
4 minutes ago, SmilinSam said:

This one is a little better.

I agree.  I usually get HF gift cards for father's day.  Let's see how we do this year.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kwt

I don't own a press. I've used a couple. I don't want a press as I don't want a tool that big and used so seldom to be taking up room. If I need something pressed on or off I just go to one of my local independent auto repair shops and have them do it. I flip em $20 and everyone's happy.

 

I wouldn't have a press without also owning 1 or 2 bearing separators. They make life @ a press so much nicer.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
fishnwiz

Press is one of those tools that when you need it, it's great to have one.

Wish I had the room but not a high priority in my book.JMO

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
wwbragg
8 hours ago, fishnwiz said:

Press is one of those tools . . .

Yeah - - -we'd all like to have a full-service shop with every tool imaginable.  I live about 15 miles from such a facility and as @kwt describes, flip them a $20  every now and then.

Not only do they have the tools, but they have people who actually know how to use them proficiently.

Edited by wwbragg
expand
  • Haha 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
ShaunE
21 hours ago, fishnwiz said:

Press is one of those tools that when you need it, it's great to have one

Greenerd #3R with cast iron stand.

All I've ever needed.  Smaller yet very similar to the one @plastikosmd has.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
MrSteele

Shopping stealthily for a decent arbor press with at least a 6" throat, and over a foot of vertical travel. Had one in another building, not at home, but scrap cast iron prices went up several years ago...and the meth heads found it, along with a lot of old engines, lawn mower and automobile.

As for penetrants? I have been using Gibbs Brand for years, have tried many others. I agree with Mr Bragg..WD 40 is for those who wish they had a decent penetrating oil, buying it is a waste of money

  • Thanks 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
kwt
9 hours ago, MrSteele said:

and the meth heads found it

Grrrr. I had something similar happen to me. A bunch of expensive oil field type tools that are almost never used. Went out back went to get one a year later, all gone. 50 to 300 lb chunks of short steel.

  • Sad 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
fishnwiz

Just blows me away how people feel they can just "help themselves " to anything of value even if trespassing to get at it just so they can catch a Buzz.  GET A JOB LOSERS.

  • Like 1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Tarheel

 I just went with a hot wrench. I didn't allow the steel to heat beyond blue. Held with a large set of Channel loc's and hit it solid a few times with the 3 pound hammer and it slid right off.

  Thanks for all the input. These pulleys are thin and I didn't believe they would stand a press.

  • Like 3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Who's Online (See full list)

    • Sovereignm88
    • airgunner
    • rokon2813
    • simplewrench
  • Today's Birthdays

    No users celebrating today
  • Recent Status Updates

    • F.U.N.

      F.U.N.  »  sandyhillbill

      Dear Sandhillbill
      Can you please copy me on this data, for Sun Star parts list.
      :
      September 12, 2004 Mike I sent you a PM and have all the mfgs. available for the tiller/hitch/pto/liftgroup if you need me to send them to you. Let me know. Thanks, F.U.N.    
      · 0 replies
    • gwiseman

      gwiseman

      Club banners are available  for members use during show season https://simpletractors.com/forums/topic/57849-simpletractors-club-banners-available/
       
      · 0 replies
  • Adverts

×