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So I'll start at the beginning. I only look at my emails once a day, early with my first cup of coffee. Usually about 5:30am. The CL ad I shared in that forum topic popped up Tuesday and I texted a reply at 6:00.  Early/mid afternoon I get a text saying 2 other people wanted to look at it, but he just noticed my text and I would be first in line, if I was interested. I asked if I could call, and we talked for a few minutes and made arrangements for me to go up after work. I got there about 8:00pm and plunked down my money. I'd ridden my bike to work (you're not the only WingNut here, Hick) so I arranged to drive my pickup Thursday (Wednesday was good riding weather) and come get it after work. Don, the seller, said his dad was the original owner. He has dad's restored Simp 2012 and many attachments; said dad got 'em all. He'd sold a cultivator recently, still had a deck and snowblower that he didn't use anymore, a spring-trip plow that he used occasionally, and the weed-cutter. He said more people called about the weedcutter than the sickle bar! Everything has lived out of the weather all its life, so they're in great shape for their age.

I know the rule; every attachment needs its own tractor. I ended up coming to this from the other end. I had a tractor that needed an attachment. I'd been given a Simp 725 with a deck. But I had enough grass cutters. This tractor needed something else. It needed a sickle bar.

 

https://simpletractors.com/forums/topic/59972-look-what-fell-into-my-lap/

So I've quitely been on the lookout. It took 2 years, but one finally came to me.

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What's the metal bar on the swathboard for?

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Swathboard (is that what its called?) cracked.

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No broken teeth and it moves freely.

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Came with a complete spare cutting bar plus 6 individual teeth.

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I know the hook needs a few more links and is used to take pressure off the cable while in transit. Where would the other end mount? He found the cable pulley and a few other bits he thought might go with it in the 2 days between purchase and pickup. Any ideas what the orange bar and orange U-shaped bar are? Also had dad's owner manual.

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I removed the wooden board so I can glue the crack up.

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Now I have to get the 725 to run. I haven't touched it since I parked it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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SmilinSam
2 hours ago, dhoadley said:

Where would the other end mount? . Any ideas what the orange bar and orange U-shaped bar are? 

 

Transport chain is usually bolted through a hole in the frame mounted on the inside of the frame. Then you just tuck it inside the frame next to the engine when not in use. Different model tractors have different particulars across the years, but that's the gist of it.

U shaped thing is a lift lever catch.  Flat bar is a footdragger lift bar that bolts to the right lift lever, and/or to the lift arm for the left hand standard lift.

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gwiseman

The rod on the swathboard is supposed to turn the mowed hay away from the end of the sicklebar and swathboard, folding the hay inward leaving a narrow path w/o hay so on the next pass there is no mowed hay to get caught up in the sickle drive. It’ll probably never matter to you but in a hayfield every component was essential 

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dhoadley

So I've started mounting this up to my 725. The cable doesn't look right where it's attqached to the sickle and going through the pulley. Any ideas/comments welcome.

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720nut

Nice find  dOd , goes to show if ya wait long enough all things come to ya

Been a while but doesn't the cable go to the cutter bar. Like I say been a while and flat bar and chain lift mower ?

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SmilinSam

Yes, the guard is all bent up...

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As you can see here, this is how the cable threads and attaches. Looks like you have it right.

You can also see the little bracket bolted to the frame to the back of the footplate. A static chain attaches to that and then to the back of the mower to hold it up off the ground. Same game plan on a FootDragger.

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Heres a couple of  shots of the transport chain hooked up..

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Hard to stow the chain in the engine compartment on this tractor, as the engine in it has a low slung ring gear starter.

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spi
11 hours ago, 720nut said:

was just going to ask what ya did with the chain when mowing ?

When I go up into the field to mow I take a trailer with gas can, grease gun, hand full of nuts and bolts, spare belt, every tool I own, and a jug of water. still end up needing to go back to the house for something. Anyway I throw the chain in to the trailer.

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PhanDad
6 hours ago, MikeES said:

The belt goes on the smaller pulley.  It will run too fast on the larger pulley.

Good catch.  

I always wondered what the smaller diameter pulley was for on my B-110 hanging PTO.  

 

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SmilinSam
7 hours ago, MikeES said:

The belt goes on the smaller pulley.  It will run too fast on the larger pulley.

....and Dave, if you dont already know, keep the rpm's on the engine way down when running a sickle mower. I usually run mine a little above idle when cutting. If you run one of these enough you can get a feel for where the throttle is just right by the sound of the mower and the amount of vibration.

If these run at too fast a rpm, they will shake themselves apart.

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dhoadley

I have no use/work for it, but that may not stop me anyhow. Rehung the support chain, and I'll move the belt to the smaller pulley next time I'm there. Thanx, Dave

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Talntedmrgreen

Dave, you will struggle a bit on the lift setup, as the 725 was not designed for the cable lift...that style sickle came later, so your pulley bracket does not have the proper frame holes for positioning, and your frame does not have the integrated bolt hole/bolt for mounting the rear support.  If you hang the support chain from the implement lift, you will run into issues with belt wear, end up dragging the mower assembly and/or grinding it against hte bottom of your tractor, etc.  The mower drive is not meant to raise and lower, so I would certainly remedy that.  Sams pictures are also of a different pulley bracket mounting setup, but that photo Mike posted is closer to what your best positioning shoudl be.  As you have it, you will damage your cable and pulley bracket.  

I am not suprised on the popularity of the weedcutter he had.  They are much harder to find and work much better for general brush cutting.  I was finally bribed out of the weedcutter I had, and am now on the watch for another.  

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1 hour ago, dhoadley said:

I have no use/work for it,

I actually found a couple of uses for mine that no other mowing implement will do. Got a water drain ditch I dug a couple years ago that I can swing the mower out over and cut the weeds down once a month.  Also found if I hang the bar out at about a 30 degree angle I can taper mow the weeds along my walk paths out in my woods back so the tall stuff wont droop out over where I walk. Used to do both those jobs with a string trimmer. This takes alot less time and is more uniform.

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