1692143 Sovereign battery

[bluesfan45]

I'm trying to find out what the original battery specs were, as in CA and CCA. It's in the size 51 group, that's all I know.

Thanks in advance.

 

[PhanDad]

I believe the original "Sovereign" batteries were 22-NF:

https://www.interstatebatteries.com/products/sp-22nf

https://www.batteriesplus.com/battery/lawn-tractor-and-mower/simplicity/7117-lawn-~-garden-tractor/17-hp

Different CCA's based on manufacturers.   

Very Similar to the 51R battery but has the holddown cleats on the end of the battery.  

 

[GregB]

Bill beat me to the response, yes original was 22NF.

All of the large frame tractors, not sure about earliest one though.  725, B1 etc

Edited September 19, 2024 by GregB

[bluesfan45]

Thanks Y'all, I almost plunked down 200 bucks for a 51 group battery. My father in law gave me the tractor a long time ago, and it's been sitting in the shop for a long time. Acouple of weeks ago I decided to get it running and use it to run around the yard doing odds and ends.I changed Spark plugs, air filters and fuel filter with a couple of fuel hoses. I charged the battery optimistically, knowing better. Anyway the battery was an autocraft silver. Replacement with the same kind of battery would cost $199.99. So thanks for the info. It's very much appreciated.

[GregB]

Check this out.

 

Bought from them before, 15% off.  Or A Menards, Farm and Fleet, TSC, but prices vary by location.

[Chris727]

I have been using the 51r because they have a better warranty being an automotive battery and Rural King locally has them for $69.00. 

[PhanDad]

10 hours ago, Chris727 said:

Rural King locally has them for $69.00

I wish! 
 

[GregB]

19 hours ago, GregB said:

but prices vary by location.

Yup they sure do.

But I usually get 4-5 years on a battery. So the lack of warranty is not a problem on my part.

I try to buy DEKA or other name brands.

From our local Batterywarehouse, made up the road a bit in Lyon Station, PA.

About an hour from my place, that's pretty local in my mind.

[Wilbur643]

6 hours ago, PhanDad said:

I wish! 
 

Yea, I'd be all over that, maybe he meant $169.00.

[Chris727]

27 minutes ago, Wilbur643 said:

Yea, I'd be all over that, maybe he meant $169.00.

I was off by $10, they are $79.99.

https://www.ruralking.com/rural-king-classic-automotive-battery-51r-60

 

 

[Bill725]

@Chris727Do you have to wear a Covid mask and hoodie to the store? LOL.

[Tarheel]

There is no way I could afford to keep group 22 or 51 batteries in all my machines of this type. Many of them have L&G 235 amp batteries. I buy them at Rural king now for less than $30 each. They last a couple of years for me but I don't have the harsh winters most of you likely have.

[Bill725]

Lawn and Garden batteries w/ 1-yr warranty

U1200CA $44

U1300CA $46

U1R400CA $49

U1425CA $62

Commercial battery w/ 2-yr warranty (non-sealed battery, can leak acid)

22NF $97 = $48.50/yr

Automotive Batteries (sealed batteries does not leak acid)

51R Gold w/ 6=yr warranty $128 = $21.33/yr

51R Platinum w/ 7-yr warranty $154 = $22/yr

Edited September 23, 2024 by Bill725

[Tarheel]

 Seems the 235 amp L&G battery has gone up a couple of bucks now $29.99. U1L-LT.

https://www.ruralking.com/rural-king-lawn-and-garden-battery-u1l-lt

[Brettw]

All I know is, buying batteries today are like cutting onions, they bring tears to your eyes.........

[bluesfan45]

Found a 22NF at Carquest, $108. Thanks for all the input.