Mike 0 Posted September 7, 1999 Dave you mentioned about testing the bevel gear box for excessive play. Do you mean side play or actual turning play. I have checked this and there is no side play however turning play is a little more than a half inch. Also what does the bevel gear box do? How does it work? Thanks for all the help. Email me if you don't mind a few more questions. Thanks, Mike Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Les 4 Posted September 7, 1999 The box contains two shafts: input and output to which two gears are attached: drive and driven. Power is essentially transmitted straight from the engine to the drive shaft to the transfer (or bevel gear) box which then drives a cross shaft for powering the transmission on the right side and the mower PTO on the left side. The gears inside the box are made of brass and what you feeling is gear wear. New gears will have hardly any noticeable back lash. 1/2" movement indicates a bit of wear but it may still last for a while yet. For "normal" use the gears may need replacement once in a tractors lifetime. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 8, 1999 I don't know Dave. I think mine are brass in my B-112. They're at least brass colored. Mike, here's another possibility. I just disassembled my bevel gear box because I could rotate the pulley 90 degrees before engaging anything. As it turns out, my bevel gear box is in great shape, but the output shaft is destroyed at the keyway that engages the transmission drive pulley. This is on a vari-speed system, but the idea would also apply to a straight 3 speed. Each of the two gears in the bevel gear box is keyed to the shaft as well, so any one of these 3 keyways or keys or 2 gears could be the culprit. If your pulley seems to be firmly attached to the shaft, then your problem is obviously inside the gearbox, and you really won't know the problem until you take it apart, which is quite a bit of work. Good luck, Greg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 8, 1999 They might be brass colored but BELIEVE me if they were made out of brass or even bronze They wouldn't last in there a month!If I've had 1 of these boxes apart I've had 50 and all the ones I worked on had STEEL gears in them.Everyone knows the gears are made from re-cycled Toyotas so they gotta be tough![sorry Toyota owners!] dlc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 8, 1999 Dave, didnt you know that Jeff has brass ones so he probably gets confused. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tej 1 Posted September 8, 1999 I finally GOTCHA! The bevel gears are NOT made of brass,you should know that! They are made of steel,at least the ones I see in NY are!If there is 1/2" gear play that's way too much and the box will need attention real soon,if it dosen't sound like a "cement mixer" when running already!Hey JN, didja sell that Anniversary Sov. yet? I've got a nice replacement for it on the stand if you did! dlc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 8, 1999 DLC, No offense taken. Recycled Toyota steel is probably the only material fit for an A-C or Simplicity tractor. We would want lesser material in our toys would we?? Roy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
john 0 Posted September 9, 1999 You're sounding like our Pres. The Waffle Man! You aren't a Dem. are you!?? you sound like one!! dlc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 9, 1999 DLC, You are great! Sounds like you prefer Teflon to Waffles. Roy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Posted September 9, 1999 Oh Oh - I think you did catch me :) Would you beleive that was a test to see if any one would notice? If not would you beleive that the originals were origianlly made of brass and later changed to steel? If not would you beleive ..........anything else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AdamF 0 Posted September 10, 1999 Naw I prefer pancakes[Ventura!] to either waffles or teflon! dlc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites