What differences are there

[KSever]

What differences are there between the Landlord 101 and the Late B-10 besides the front grill. Seems as though I've replaced more parts on this Landlord with B-10 parts than Landlord parts. All I think I need is the grill material and decals and it might be B-10 :D

[SmilinSam]

The seat, grill and front hood supports are the only different pieces that I am aware of. PTO mibth be slightly differnt because the late B-10 is newer than the 101. Actually the 101 is counterpart to the Big Ten not the B-10, and the 2010 would be counterpart to the late B-10.

[KSever]

Sam, Are there alot of differences between the two Big Ten (on top) and the B-10 (on bottom) [img]http://www.simpletractors.com/images/big_ten/mower.jpg[/img] [img]http://www.simpletractors.com/images/b_series_images/ac_b-10_late.jpg[/img]

[Kent]

According to the B-10/B-12 sales information, in addition to decals and such: A quicker (5.1 to 1) steering ratio is now used. New, heavier front axle and spindles, and wider front wheels with 6:50 x 8 tires on the B-12. New, longer choke and throttle levers make it easier to precisely operate these engine controls.

[SmilinSam]

Kent, Was that thicker front axle on the 12 only and not the 10?

[Kent]

Sam, That's the exact wording, so your guess is as good as mine. I thought it applied to both, with just the wide tires for the B-12, but now I'm not sure.... Kent

[CleanBee]

Kris, there are a lot of small differences between the two, but basically most parts are interchangeable. I had fun trying to list all of them below... so don't get to bored. I will term the 101 as the earlier model and the late B-10 as the later model. Obvious differences are the grill, paint, seats as mentioned, and the motor from 9hp to 10. Some minor differences are: 1)The axel spindles are different, the later ones have a one piece bent rod, and the earlier ones were made from two rods welded together. Note: the steering arm that attaches to the steering rods have different key positions, off by about 3 hours. 2)The axels were different, same thickness but the later ones had stops for the tie rods formed into the axel as nubs just above where the mower pins hook up, the earlier ones had the stop pins for the tie rods welded on. Note: The camber on the two axels is different, so do not inter mix parts. 3)The piece in front of the motor where the front pto belt guides bolts into were different lengths forward. 4)The steering gear units between the two were different, the later ones used a single unit with a moon shaped secondary gear, and the earlier ones used a full gear and a 2 piece unit with grease fittings on both. 5)The steering shafts are different, the earlier ones have a wider spread where they meet the universal joint. 6)The gas tank straps have different bends, the earlier ones have a bend to lay flusher with the head of the attaching bolts ,and the later ones lay straight. 7)The rear axel pivot for the front axel on the later model B-10 has a metal bushing welded on to reduce wear. 8)The metal trim under the grills were cut differently around the drain plug. 9)The early original hood thumb pins did not have the metal pins in them, they were just round with knurling. 10)The sub-console that the gas tank mounts to are the same except the later ones had an additional oblong hole formed into the metal behind the regulator. 11)The dash consoles were different, the later ones have an additional metal bracing at the upper corners. 12)The center PTO's were completely different, from welded to stamped metal frames, earlier ones had brass pivot bushings, later ones had a welded on left pulley. Each has different spring assemblies for holding tension on the mower belts. 13)The rear lift assemblies and rear hitch units were made slightly different, later ones had a washer welded on the lift where the rod meets, earlier ones had an additional bushing. Earlier ones had the hitch welded under the cross brace, later ones had the hitch welded on top of the cross brace between the rear mounting holes. 14)The drive shaft flex plates went from rubber to fiber. 15)The earlier brake drum was mounted like a pully, the later drum was attached with a nut on the end of the shaft. 16)The clutch pedal front and rear linkages were different, the earlier ones had stops near the pedal, earlier ones had a spring on the clutch rod to prevent a vibrating pedal. the later ones had a spring that went from the rear clutch assembly to the top of the tranny case, the later ones had a one piece rear clutch assembly. 17)Earlier ones did not have a center PTO guard originally. 18)The chrome trim that goes around the Amp gauges are slightly different. I think I recalled everything that is different between them. Was sort of challenging trying to remember as much as I can. Might be better to say your tractor is more similar to the early B-10's. The Big 10 I am not as familiar with but I believe it is the same as the early B-10 except for the 10 hp motor, grill and emblems.

[KSever]

Holy moly, didn't know they were that different. But I'm still deciding what color to paint this thing. But I have until spring to decide that. Right now I just have it all tore down and replacing anything that needs replaced and putting it back together. Spring time I'm going to tear it apart again and sandblast everything and repaint it and decal it. Hopefully it will be ready for Rhinelander but if it's not painted by then it still has to go anyway. Thanks, all of you guys for the input.