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B210 and tiller question, also 7116 question.


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Well, I am a new owner of a B210 that my wife refers to as "a peice of junk". It came to me with a tiller that has a white dirt shield and a 1 row cultivator. What will I need to use this tiller on a 7116? It looks like it will bolt up and it also looks like it will drive off of the side drive for the mower deck, is that correct? I will need to open the tiller up, it appears to have a broken chain inside. Does anyone have a picture diagram of the inside of this thing? The B210 has a set of pulleys mounted to the hitch, do I need those with the 7116, or can I just use one long belt? The B210 appears complete but has not run in years and needs some help, I do have the wheel weights and front weights and all the sheet metal. The tranny also appears to work as well as the vari-drive.
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Matt, The Pulleys are the clutch for the tiller. If you run one long belt you will not have a clutch. The tiller acually has 2 chains inside and I have a manual on the tiller for the B10, B12, B110, and B112 and I think your tiller would be the same thing. One other point, unless you're tilling the sandy loam of Martha's Vineyard or the black rockless soil of south Louisiana the tiller will shake your tractor apart. At least it does here in the rock and clay of PA. Tim
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Hey Matt! It sounds like your wife and my wife might be related! If the tiller is white it was made for a 300 or 400 series Allis. Someone told me that the lift shaft diameter is different. Usually it is the bottom roller chain that goes bad on the tiller(its closer to the dirt!). Its a real greasy job pulling the tiller apart. If you do need chain, look for a farm dealer with bulk roller chain, will save you some $$$. You should be able to make it work on the 7116, you may need an additional idler pulley on the tractor to keep the belt from rubbing on the seat deck. It may be tricky getting the right length belt. E-mail me if you have more questions.
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11-1-99 @ 22:08 Ok Gang, What I need is information on how to make the tiller from my B-1 fit & work on my new Sovereign. I know there is a pulley that goes on the Sovereign. I think it cost $28 for the tiller pulley kit. What I don't know is what other pulleys, etc. it takes to drive the tiller. My tiller has a Woods type tapered bushing and pulley so I can go to a smaller pulley if necessary. The pulley on the tiller now is as large as can be fitted without binding the drive belt excessively. The B-1 tiller drive clutch (mounts on left-hand hitch post pivot) was designed to maintain the proper belt tension regardless of the tiller lift position (up, down, or anywhere in between) and also work as the drive clutch. With the Sovereign the PTO clutch will serve to drive or disengage the tiller. What arrangement is used to maintain the belt tension when the tiller is raised and lowered? Some think it will cost more to modify the drive arrangement than simply buying a newer model tiller that fits the Soverign but I'm not so sure of that. A good tiller is hard to come by. Any help will be appreciated. Roy
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If you get the exact MFG numbers you may be able to use the "What Fits?" chart. Tim - the 7116 would use its own PTO to disengage the tiller - therefore a single constant tension belt would be appropriate. For proper belt alignment though I believe their are some pullies needed that actually hang off the tiller hitch.
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Since it was such a nice November day I decided to till up a few areas where I plan to re-seed next spring. I had never put the tiller on my Agco-Allis so I thought that I would try it out. This tractor is the same as your 7116 or a new Sovereign. Just for fun I put on the old style tiller. It mounted up OK but I would need two thing to make it till. One would be an idler pulley to keep the belt from rubbing on the seat deck, the second would be the correct length belt. I didnt want to spend the bucks for a special belt I dont need so I put the new style tiller on. It tilled fine. Earlier I put an idler pulley on that tiller to keep the belt off seat deck. My old style tiller is narrower than the new style, so it would not cover you wheel tracks. Hope this helps. Take care, Les
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