Need Advice Deck Pully Arbor

[Scotmo]

I have a Simp 6216 with a 42 inch deck. I need to replace the bearings and arbor on one of the pullys. I am having trouble getting the old arbor out. Anybody got any tricks up there sleeve.I have never done this before. Thanks Scot

[Dutch]

What problem are you having? Once pulley, blade, and bolts are removed from the arbor housings, the shaft and bearings should "tap" right out.

[Scotmo]

Thats what I was told by the dealer also,but no such luck. Thanks Dutch

[a7117puller]

hmmm, need bigger hammer

[BLT]

You might need hydraulic press to push shat out of arbor. Sometimes the shaft get rusty betwwen the bearings and pressing it out is the only way.

[a7117puller]

yup, bigger hammer:))

[PatRarick]

May need a torch. If the old bearing has siezed or the shaft spun in the bearing, it sometimes builds a ridge around the worn area. the ridge is too large to go through the bearing. Pat

[jrosenboom]

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Originally posted by dutch
What problem are you having? Once pulley, blade, and bolts are removed from the arbor housings, the shaft and bearings should "tap" right out.

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GOOD ONE DUTCH!!!!8D:D;)

[Scotmo]

Trying to understand jrosnboom's response. Why is that good? I come to this web site to get advice and share my experiances. I thought ,thats what we are all here for. When something that should tap right out doesnt thats when I look for someone elses experiance. Christ I can get sarcasam anywhere. Save that crap for the coffee shop jrosenboom BOOO HISSS

[BLT]

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Originally posted by Scotmo
I have a Simp 6216 with a 42 inch deck. I need to replace the bearings and arbor on one of the pullys. I am having trouble getting the old arbor out. Anybody got any tricks up there sleeve.I have never done this before. Thanks Scot

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You were kind of vague when you asked the question and Dutch replied with the right answer and you replied back. Then you got some other experience replys and some one else found Dutch's statement kind of funny. I did too, when I first read it, remembering my problems. I don't think post was sartistic at you and next time you need advice, it might not come so easy.

[Kent]

Scot, lighten up a bit, will ya? ;) I ended up taking my arbors, housings, pulleys and all, to a shop and having them pressed out -- after I ruined one pulley trying to pull them off. The shop ruined another before they got them disassembled. Only the castiron center pulley was salvaged. Two pulleys, two shafts, all-new bearings, a lot of labor -- so, $230 later, I had rebuilt arbors....

[Scotmo]

How vauge was I? I thought """"" I am having trouble getting the old arbor out""""""covered it.Assuming that others seemed to know what my problem was.Perhaps that was my mistake.Kent.You shared a valuable experiance and I thank you for that. I have nothing but respect for you and the other members here.Telling me to """lighten up """"and ignoring other comments only contributes to the feeling that this site is for the very few that agree with the powers that be and all others are unwelcome .I not only want to keep it light but want to contribute when I can .We have have a great venue here .I felt as if jrosenboom was condesending and elitest at my expense so naturally I took offense. I guess I will never be a model citizen.(come on now that was a joke) I am a live and let live kind of person but when push comes to shove I will defend myself. HELL all I wanted was for someone to share an experiance that they might have had and how they overcame it. JEEEEEEEZ i didnt know I needed Henery Kissenger to post here.

[stinkie]

Guys, I am NOT touching this one. I've never rebuilt my arbors, so I cant add much. But I do have a question regarding the bearings: Those things are lubed from the factory and the manual says no maint. is required. But is it a good idea to tear those things apart every now and then and pack the bearings with grease? Or is it easier just to put new bearings in after everything wears out?

[Kent]

Stinkie, The older machines, at least, had a grease fitting on each arbor housing for you to give it a few pumps of grease once a year or so -- just to deal with the moisture/rust issue -- not to grease the sealed bearings. My personal recommendation is that if your arbors don't have these grease fittings, then don't mess with them...

[jrosenboom]

Scotmo, We're all friends here. I don't know how that would offend anyone?? What I said to Dutch, was said to Dutch as a "JOKE".:o)

[HubbardRA]

Scotmo, I appreciate your questioning this procedure. I am getting ready to disassemble two 48 inch decks for replacement of noisy bearings, myself. I am glad that you asked the question and dug out the information for me. If comments are made that are obviously a joke, ignore them. It is only the times when I can't tell the joke from a real answer that irritate me. My biggest pieve - people who ask a question, but never reply to let you know that they even read your answer, or if it helped. You are obviously not one of those types. John, Your comment was right on time to me. It meant drop the ballpeen hammer and pick up the large deadblow hammer, since I don't have a press. Reminds me of the time I was trying to get the blade collar off a crankshaft, and tapped the puller so hard that I drove the crankshaft through the top of the block. We all make stupid mistakes sometimes.

[thedaddycat]

"Tap right out"??? That may be how they SHOULD come out, but that isn't always the case.......

[stinkie]

At least you have plenty of slingshot ammo now.............

[vfd702]

I am pulling a 42"deck and a 48" deck apart this weekend to rebuild the arbors. These 6 will go back as one complete set for a 48" to be used this summer and spares on hand for quick changing if needed during the season. These decks sat outside and are a rusty mess. Lots of BLue Wrench heating and presswork ahead. I always add grease zerks and keep them nice and gooey inside. Sure makes them come apart nice later. ken

[RenegadeJ]

I have 4 of the 48 inch mower decks, and the ones that were not equipped with grease fittings, I drilled and tapped the arbor and installed grease fittings. Since doing this I have not had a single bearing failure in any of the decks. P.S. I mow aboiut 5 acres sometimes twice a week during the grass growning months.

[Scotmo]

Thanks to all that replied.I was kind of frustrated and grumpy during this exercise but all is well. I finally took the pully into work and pressed the shaft out. I was told that they didnt make a hammer big enough to TAP those shafts out and I became a believer. Thanks again Scot

[BLT]

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Originally posted by Scotmo
Thanks to all that replied.I was kind of frustrated and grumpy during this exercise but all is well. I finally took the pully into work and pressed the shaft out. I was told that they didnt make a hammer big enough to TAP those shafts out and I became a believer. Thanks again Scot

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Just remember your motto:D:D:D

[Scotmo]

BLT You just put a big smile on my face LOL Thanks

[BLT]

I have long learned that with everything in life you have to keep the best open mind you can have. And when you reflect on some things after it was all said and done, it was humorous.

[Stoneheartfarm]

After reading what everybody has gone through, I guess I had good luck on mine. I've replaced both the center and left hand arbor and bearings. Both times, they hammered out. Took a big hammer and a chisel and busted the races apart. After a lot of cussin, I got them out. Both times they wound up looking like the picture Daddy cat posted. Steve