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elogan3
The engine just died in my 3 1/2 year old Simplicity Broadmoor Garden Tractor. It was warming up at idle about a minute after starting, when the engine went "clank", and went unbalanced. I shut it down immediately (Yes, it was full of oil). I think that a wrist pin or connecting rod went. Two mechanics have told me that it's an aluminum block engine, and not worth fixing. Sooo.... Can anybody suggest a source for a new engine (Briggs will not sell direct). It's a 16hp Vanguard Vtwin, Model 303777, Type 111-E1, Electric start. The local shops want $1,200.00 for the engine, and about $400.00 in labor. Yuk. Thanks! :(

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arjr111
Hi Ed, I have seen replacement engines on Ebay selling for much less than $1200. Check link for a possibility. [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2318630316&category=20544[/url] [img]http://images.prosperpoint.com/images/2534/127706-69.jpg[/img]

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Kent
Small Engine Warehouse, one of the advertisers, has that engine for $750 excluding muffler and shipping... http://www.smallenginewarehouse.com/product.asp?PN=303777

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arjr111
Good question Dan, guess it depends on the size/footprint, mounting pattern and whether the shaft sizes are the same. The ELS engine is Premium Consumer, which is actually a downgrade, from the Vanguard, which is labeled top of the line Premium Commercial.
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[url]http://www.briggsandstratton.com/MainSite.asp?CategoryID=315&lrID=1&ParentID=315&MSCSSID=1234&MB=&EPAGE=/main/RealBriggs/WebSite/NA/EN/corporate/engines/mower-rideon&l=0[/url] Lawn Mower Engines: Ride-on Engines Not all lawns are alike, which is why we make a variety of lawn & garden engines to choose from. Let us help you figure out what engine is right for your lawn. Other Lawn Mower Engines • Ride-on EnginesWalk-Behind Engines Compare all Ride-on Mower Engines Entry Market Engines of this size are ideal for smaller lawns with a gentle terrain. Entry Market engines provide: • Dependable starting • Reliable performance Compare Entry Market Engines Mid Market Engines of this size are ideal for small to medium sized lawns with obstacles and gentle to a more rugged terrain. Many of these mowers are self-propelled, making mowing less strenuous. Mid Market engines provide: • Dependable starting • Reliable performance • Increased durability • Longer run-time Compare Mid Market Engines Performance Market Engines of this size are ideal for medium to large yards with many obstacles and more rugged terrain. Performance Market engines provide: • Overhead valve design • Increased power • Longer engine life • Improved fuel economy • Dependable starting • Reliable performance Compare Performance Market Engines Premium Consumer Market Large yards with rough terrain and the need to pull attachments require engines of this size. Premium Consumer Market engines provide: • Overhead valve design • Increased power • Longer engine life • Improved fuel economy • Dependable starting • Reliable performance Compare Premium Consumer Market Engines Premium Commercial Market These top-of-the-line Vanguard engines stand up to daily use by those who professionally care for grassy areas and turf. Premium Commercial Market engines provide: • Premium commercial-quality components • Overhead valve design • Increased power • Longer engine life • Improved fuel economy • Dependable starting • Reliable performance Compare Premium Commercial Market Engines

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goatfarmer
I just purchased a 14 hp Vanguard from Small Engine Warehouse for a 10 yr old Broadmoor.Total with shipping was $633.95.Their shipping methods leave a bit to be desired,but all in all I'm satisfied.

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UCD
elogan3 Here is a BRAND NEW Briggs & Stratton Engine Model IC 28N777-1178 Industrial Commercial Series 15.5HP. On eBay Buy It Now for US $399.95 [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2318946966&category=20544[/url] [img]http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_beaf1a318730b4727cf99dae7d379648/i-1.JPG[/img]

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Dutch
Before you get a replacement engine, I would suggest you determine what exactly went wrong with yours. It could be as simple as a piece of carbon or a valve problem. The only way to confirm is to perform a partial disassembly of the engine and see what's going on.

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goatfarmer
The problem with using an IC engine to replace a Vanguard is having to rig up exhaust,throttle linkage,etc.Also the Vanguard on my Broadmoor used a fuel pump,because the tank is under the seat.Not sure if the IC has one.

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arjr111
This New 25HP V Twin Intek Briggs sold for $500. [img]http://ebay1.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/_EBAY_e43cf0078a29ec4a01d6c0a1498235d3/i-1_B.JPG[/img] [url]http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=20544&item=2317593600&rd=1[/url]

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BradW
Jeez, sorry to hear that. Do you own any older simplicity's? I dislike my regent alot, noting but breakdowns, even the 1st year I had it. If you use it hard, you might just be better off with an old Soverign,....not being pushy...but for that much $$$ to buy a motor, you could get a nice used Soverign....best tractor Simplicity made. From my new Regent, I know 1 thing....no KOHLER ever AGIAN! Junk Junk Sorry for the rambling... -Good luck -BradW

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